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GrayEdwards
04-26-2015, 03:03 AM
I love the DoFP score. Ottman doesn't have to worry about not gettin' my money. It'd be cool if it had a full version of Kashmir from the third trailer.

I wish Disney was as open to expanded/complete releases. I'd buy an expanded MCU score in a heartbeat (I think Incredible Hulk got a complete release, but that was before the Disney purchase)

I think this had more to do with the fact that Hulk was co-produced by Universal (and why Marvel hasn't done another solo Hulk film) than the Disney buy-out. Or it could be that Armstrong or the record company signed a different deal that made a two disc score release possible.

DAKoftheOTA
04-26-2015, 03:13 AM
I think this had more to do with the fact that Hulk was co-produced by Universal (and why Marvel hasn't done another solo Hulk film)

I didn't read the article, but I saw something on Yahoo! the other day when I was scrolling through the rolodex. Universal owns the rights to solo Hulk films.

FERRIS1138
04-26-2015, 09:04 AM
Cheers

Cpt Rex Kramer
04-26-2015, 09:48 AM
How about the deleted scenes that shows the aftermath of Stark's party? Is that spliced in?


Are you refering to the party when he's in costume and is drunk? Isn't that in Iron Man 2? I don't remember any of these deleated scenes your all talking about. I don't even remember a deleated scenes section on the blu-ray. Guess I need to go back and revisit it. (Sigh) It sucks getting old. ;)

EricTan
04-26-2015, 02:44 PM
Is the Marvel Studios fanfare included? I saw the movie yesterday, and the fanfare is very different, maybe the movie is a bit darker. It sure is a long movie at 141 minutes, but two composers?
Anyway, many thanks for this. Much appreciated.

Never mind, the first thirty seconds of "It Begins" is the Marvel Studios fanfare. Saw the movie again today. Now, the end credits music would be nice.

CaptainJackSparrow
04-26-2015, 03:50 PM
Marvel is always high on dollar bill fumes when it comes to how they handle film scores, but this is downright unfortunate. If Joss really wanted Silvestri back, he should've been more strict about it, instead of allowing the editor to basically extract the soul of the first movie's score to infuse it to this film. Hopefully Infinity Wars won't fall prey of such nonsense.

They're definitely overcompensating. Anything to make more money despite how bad things wind up being.[COLOR="Silver"]

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[QUOTE=AdrFax;2941770]Marvel is always high on dollar bill fumes when it comes to how they handle film scores, but this is downright unfortunate. If Joss really wanted Silvestri back, he should've been more strict about it, instead of allowing the editor to basically extract the soul of the first movie's score to infuse it to this film. Hopefully Infinity Wars won't fall prey of such nonsense.

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Oh, god no D: Zimmer is like the old lady in a butcher shop that always clogs the line instead of waiting for her turn, and always demands to be dispatched by the same person. Let some other composer give a shot at superheroes.



In regards to the first: yes I feel like they're kind of milking it now.

In regards to the second: Any suggestions?

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So I had a nosy on iTunes. And my most listened to tracks from the soundtrack are the Elfman ones. In not surprised honestly. I love Danny Elfman. I hope Infinity War just has one composer though. Either Silvestri or Elfman. I don't think Tyler has what it takes for an Avengers film which is a shame as I love his IM3 and TTDW scores.

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I wonder what effect the whole Tyler/Elfman debacle will have on Thor: Ragnarok. Will Tyler score it? Or will someone else score it and either keep Tyler's theme or create a new one? Will Marvel surprise us and bring Patrick Doyle back? That said though, I would not mind Elfman tackling Ragnarok.

As for the first one: I am rooting for Silvestri just for old times sake
As for the second one: I hope Elfman does.

DAKoftheOTA
04-26-2015, 04:09 PM
Are you refering to the party when he's in costume and is drunk? Isn't that in Iron Man 2? I don't remember any of these deleated scenes your all talking about. I don't even remember a deleated scenes section on the blu-ray. Guess I need to go back and revisit it. (Sigh) It sucks getting old. ;)

Nope. There's a party in the beginning of the film (I think after the casino scene when he takes Christine home) and we see "the morning after". Women asleep on the floor all over Stark grounds. Kinda like that Hardee's / Carl's Jr. commercial where the model walks around giving everyone a breakfast sandwich :p

darth2602
04-26-2015, 04:22 PM
i'have recorder the complete movie sounds (sorry french speaking) with my mobile phone, i can upload the file, if you want to reorder the score (please share you're track listing)

https://mega.co.nz/#!AtJGWJ7J!3F4Gk89EFUFfgBVgKrJyt9iHkAhVxGRbLUqf0zw 2_HE

kadamss528
04-26-2015, 05:09 PM
I'm not getting my hopes too high regarding Elfman. Marvel is notorious for changing their composers all the time. No one expected Jackman to be back for Civil War. Neither did he see himself returning. Who knows what will happen on that front. The closest Marvel got to having a definitive musical palette for their movies was in Captain America The First Avenger. I didn't like Silvestri's work on the Avengers that much, but after watching Age of Ultron, the only musical identities made an impact for me were his own for Cap and the Helicarrier. While Elfman did a solid job (especially with the scene that has 'Avengers Unite'), his main theme wasn't epic enough for me. I guess my expectations were too high when you have Earths Mightiest Heroes in one movie. While Tyler's work fell flat (considering how he talked about the score being in the vein of John Williams' work on Star Wars and Indiana Jones) his own Thor theme conveys that epic scale of these stories more than Elfman's Avengers theme. All in all it was a mixed bag for me from both composers with Elfman faring better on the whole. I want to see Elfman do Doctor Strange though with the alternate dimensions and other such elements offering enough room for some gothic experiments.

Cameron007
04-26-2015, 05:21 PM
Eh I still don't hear it but thanks anyway...And I think I know what Elfman was saying when he said he liked Silvestri's original theme...I think he meant the rhythm with the strings, since it is Hermannesque....

Still cant make any sense out of it yet...Hopefully it clears up when put to film. Tyler's Furious 7 score was much more inventive...Yep...Disney really wanted him to subdue himself for this score in favor of a pure symphonical one.

Pure symphonic score. Still, better than a Zimmer-esque, overused synth score.

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Dare I say it should've been Zimmer? LOL

The day Zimmer joins the MCU will be the day I stop listening to the scores.

Djibou80
04-26-2015, 05:25 PM
Thanks !!!

hahah123
04-26-2015, 05:34 PM
Pure symphonic score. Still, better than a Zimmer-esque, overused synth score.

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The day Zimmer joins the MCU will be the day I stop listening to the scores.

And here we go again... Everything anyone does is better than Zimmer. I respect your opinion, but seriously? what's he got to do with Elfman's effort?

DAKoftheOTA
04-26-2015, 05:34 PM
The day Zimmer joins the MCU will be the day I stop listening to the scores.

Well I hate to break it to you, but he's been involved since the beginning. He did some work on Iron Man. And don't forget he's the bmoc at RCP. So that's 2 MCU scores: Iron Man and TWS.

hahah123
04-26-2015, 05:41 PM
Well I hate to break it to you, but he's been involved since the beginning. He did some work on Iron Man. And don't forget he's the bmoc at RCP. So that's 2 MCU scores: Iron Man and TWS.

Yes he worked on some cool cues in IM1. The test cues for instance. I think you can check on HZ.com which tracks he worked on. I personally hope he'll do the new spider man movie. Sue me, but I love Zimmer's music and in Spidey's case it really works!

DAKoftheOTA
04-26-2015, 05:50 PM
And here we go again... Everything anyone does is better than Zimmer. I respect your opinion, but seriously? what's he got to do with Elfman's effort?

As a composer I feel like people are either gonna like or dislike your music. You're not doing your job right if everyone in the world likes your music. So it's natural that some people dislike Zimmer

And it was I who dragged him into this topic, so that's what he has to do with Elfman :p

hahah123
04-26-2015, 05:54 PM
As a composer I feel like people are either gonna like or dislike your music. You're not doing your job right if everyone in the world likes your music. So it's natural that some people dislike Zimmer

And it was I who dragged him into this topic, so that's what he has to do with Elfman :p

Of course! I dislike composers music as well! Everyone doesn't have to like everyone's music, would be boring otherwise if everyone thought the same. I might have mixed up Cameron with someone else like Rocklegend who always seems to be spreading the word about zimmer's bad music lol.

Ah lol:D

Matt_Lambertson
04-26-2015, 09:07 PM
While Tyler's work fell flat (considering how he talked about the score being in the vein of John Williams' work on Star Wars and Indiana Jones

It's possible the more Williams-like cues are what got replaced by Elfman's music, due to the studio and/or their test audiences thinking it sounded too old-fashioned, as has happened far too many times before, though never on a film of this box office magnitude. It's also possible Tyler was on crack, but it's unfortunate we don't get to hear his score for the whole movie so we can learn for ourselves.

Scary Kitty
04-26-2015, 09:09 PM
Nope. There's a party in the beginning of the film (I think after the casino scene when he takes Christine home) and we see "the morning after". Women asleep on the floor all over Stark grounds. Kinda like that Hardee's / Carl's Jr. commercial where the model walks around giving everyone a breakfast sandwich :p

No, that's from the party at Tony's house in Dubai, which happens well after he returns from Afghanistan. (This entire sequence was cut from the film; it's the one that Ghostface Killah had a cameo in.) Tony has Pepper set it up so he can use it as a cover for him to take off and go save Gulmira. ;)

ETA: And no, the Dubai scenes are not on the FX cut. Just as well, as I think the way that Pepper finds out about Tony's new "hobby" in the theatrical/FX cut is funnier than the Dubai alternate scene anyway. :p

Cameron007
04-26-2015, 10:12 PM
[QUOTE=Matt_Lambertson;2943795]It's possible the more Williams-like cues are what got replaced by Elfman's music, due to the studio and/or their test audiences thinking it sounded too old-fashioned.

With everything that's happening, the things that are about to come to light, people might just need a little old-fashioned.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

AdrFax
04-27-2015, 05:35 AM
I love the DoFP score. Ottman doesn't have to worry about not gettin' my money. It'd be cool if it had a full version of Kashmir from the third trailer.

I wish Disney was as open to expanded/complete releases. I'd buy an expanded MCU score in a heartbeat (I think Incredible Hulk got a complete release, but that was before the Disney purchase)

Interesting. I like Ottman's work on DoFP, but in general, it doesn't really compare to what he did on X2. Even on a cue as superfluous as the one that plays when Senator Kelly joins Stryker and the president in the Oval Office, there are melodic statements that make the track enjoyable. It's hard to find something like that on DoFP. Many of the smaller moments are drowned on electronic arrangements with various degrees of success. Even though I haven't found any track of DoFP that is hard not to like, the electronics going on are kinda hit-or-miss for me. It feels like he had a great opportunity to do something interesting on this film, but decided to make something closer to Jackman's work on First Class (and failing, somewhat). The End Titles track shows how the whole score could've been if he had taken a different approach.

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It's possible the more Williams-like cues are what got replaced by Elfman's music, due to the studio and/or their test audiences thinking it sounded too old-fashioned.

With everything that's happening, the things that are about to come to light, people might just need a little old-fashioned.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

I was just seeing Avengers on TV and caught that scene. Oh, Coulson :'D

DAKoftheOTA
04-27-2015, 06:08 AM
I was just seeing Avengers on TV and caught that scene. Oh, Coulson :'D

On FX? I was just watching it, too. But time for bed zzzzz.....

EricTan
04-27-2015, 01:41 PM
Actually, the first track is "It Begins", and the first 30 seconds of that is the Marvel Studios fanfare.

darth2602
04-27-2015, 01:51 PM
yes

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update (04/27)

100% sure

It Begins (Danny Elfman)
Breaking and Entering (Brian Tyler)
Birth of Ultron (Brian Tyler)
Ultron-Twins (Danny Elfman
Hulkbuster (Brian Tyler)
Farmhouse (Danny Elfman)
The Vault (Brian Tyler)
Seoul Searching (Brian Tyler)
Vision (Brian Tyler)
The Mission (Brian Tyler)
The Battle (Brian Tyler)
Can You Stop This Thing? (Danny Elfman)
Outlook (Brian Tyler)
Avengers Unite (Danny Elfman)
Sacrifice (Brian Tyler)
The Last One (Brian Tyler)
The Farm (Danny Elfman)
Nothing Lasts Forever (Danny Elfman)
New Avengers-Avengers: Age of Ultron (Danny Elfman)



???
Heroes (Danny Elfman)
Ultron Wakes (Danny Elfman)
Uprising (Brian Tyler)
Keys to the Past (Brian Tyler)
Darkest of Intentions (Brian Tyler)
Rise Together (Brian Tyler)
Fighting Back (Brian Tyler)
Inevitability-One Good Eye (Danny Elfman)
Wish You Were Here (Brian Tyler)
Avengers: Age of Ultron Title (Brian Tyler)

hahah123
04-27-2015, 02:50 PM
yes

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update (04/27)

100% sure

It Begins (Danny Elfman)
Breaking and Entering (Brian Tyler)
Birth of Ultron (Brian Tyler)
Ultron-Twins (Danny Elfman
Hulkbuster (Brian Tyler)
Farmhouse (Danny Elfman)
The Vault (Brian Tyler)
Seoul Searching (Brian Tyler)
Vision (Brian Tyler)
The Mission (Brian Tyler)
The Battle (Brian Tyler)
Can You Stop This Thing? (Danny Elfman)
Outlook (Brian Tyler)
Avengers Unite (Danny Elfman)
Sacrifice (Brian Tyler)
The Last One (Brian Tyler)
The Farm (Danny Elfman)
Nothing Lasts Forever (Danny Elfman)
New Avengers-Avengers: Age of Ultron (Danny Elfman)



???
Heroes (Danny Elfman)
Ultron Wakes (Danny Elfman)
Uprising (Brian Tyler)
Keys to the Past (Brian Tyler)
Darkest of Intentions (Brian Tyler)
Rise Together (Brian Tyler)
Fighting Back (Brian Tyler)
Inevitability-One Good Eye (Danny Elfman)
Wish You Were Here (Brian Tyler)
Avengers: Age of Ultron Title (Brian Tyler)

Heroes and Inevitability-One Good Eye are unused cues. Avengers: Age of Ultron Title plays before Birth of Ultron. Wish you were here plays before Nothing Lasts forever.

zardoz22
04-27-2015, 02:56 PM
FLAC digital download is very much a thing. There are many sites that sell legit FLAC and DSD downloads.

Qobuz Release is planned tomorrow.

EricTan
04-27-2015, 03:22 PM
The first 25 seconds of "It Begins" is the music played over the Marvel Studios logo. Saw it again yesterday.

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Well, what Thor does halfway through the movie is not fully explained (don't want to spoil anything), and it's still not explained by the end of the movie. And also, what did Hulk "see"? Lots of stuff cut to trim the movie to 2:21 from 3:30.

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Well, what Thor does halfway through the movie is not fully explained (don't want to spoil anything), and it's still not explained by the end of the movie. And also, what did Hulk "see"? Lots of stuff cut to trim the movie to 2:21 from 3:30.

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No Strings is not in the movie at all. You do hear the cartoon voices briefly in a scene though. Pardon my ignorance, I'm guessing No Strings is from Pinocchio, right?

darth2602
04-27-2015, 03:58 PM
update 3 (04/27)



It Begins (Danny Elfman)
Breaking and Entering (Brian Tyler)
Uprising (Brian Tyler) NOT SURE
Avengers: Age of Ultron Title (Brian Tyler)
Birth of Ultron (Brian Tyler)
Ultron Wakes (Danny Elfman) NOT SURE
Darkest of Intentions (Brian Tyler) NOT SURE
Ultron-Twins (Danny Elfman)
Keys to the Past (Brian Tyler) NOT SURE
Hulkbuster (Brian Tyler)
Farmhouse (Danny Elfman)
The Vault (Brian Tyler)
Seoul Searching (Brian Tyler)
Vision (Brian Tyler)
The Mission (Brian Tyler)
The Battle (Brian Tyler)
Can You Stop This Thing? (Danny Elfman)
Outlook (Brian Tyler)
Fighting Back (Brian Tyler) NOT SURE
Avengers Unite (Danny Elfman)
Sacrifice (Brian Tyler)
The Last One (Brian Tyler)
The Farm (Danny Elfman)
Wish You Were Here (Brian Tyler)
Nothing Lasts Forever (Danny Elfman)
New Avengers-Avengers: Age of Ultron (Danny Elfman)




Unused ?
Heroes (Danny Elfman)
Rise Together (Brian Tyler)
Inevitability-One Good Eye (Danny Elfman)

EricTan
04-27-2015, 04:05 PM
Avengers: Age of Ultron Title is when SPOILER ALERT!...Tony Stark retrieves the staff of Loki and the movie's main title appears for a few seconds.

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Perhaps Heroes (Danny Elfman) was an alternate end credit roll cue...

darth2602
04-27-2015, 04:40 PM
maybe "ultron wakes" after "ultron birth" ?

darth2602
04-28-2015, 09:05 AM
update 4 (04/28)

100% sure
It Begins (Danny Elfman)
Breaking and Entering (Brian Tyler)
Avengers: Age of Ultron Title (Brian Tyler)
Birth of Ultron (Brian Tyler)
Ultron-Twins (Danny Elfman)
Hulkbuster (Brian Tyler)
Farmhouse (Danny Elfman)
The Vault (Brian Tyler)
Seoul Searching (Brian Tyler)
Vision (Brian Tyler)
The Mission (Brian Tyler)
The Battle (Brian Tyler)
Uprising (Brian Tyler)
Can You Stop This Thing? (Danny Elfman)
Avengers Unite (Danny Elfman)
Outlook (Brian Tyler)
Sacrifice (Brian Tyler)
The Last One (Brian Tyler)
The Farm (Danny Elfman)
Wish You Were Here (Brian Tyler)
Nothing Lasts Forever (Danny Elfman)
New Avengers-Avengers: Age of Ultron (Danny Elfman)

???
Ultron Wakes (Danny Elfman) NOT SURE (alternate ?)
Darkest of Intentions (Brian Tyler) NOT SURE (alternate ?)
Keys to the Past (Brian Tyler) NOT SURE (alternate ?)
Fighting Back (Brian Tyler) NOT SURE (alternate ?)
Heroes (Danny Elfman) (End Tittle Alternate ?)
Rise Together (Brian Tyler) (Outlook alternate ?)
Inevitability - One Good Eye (Danny Elfman) (bonus track, suite ? alrternate ?)

James P.Sullivan
04-28-2015, 02:17 PM
What's all this talk about alternate/deleted scenes in the first Iron Man? I had no idea there were alternate scenes...

darth2602
04-28-2015, 04:21 PM
....

R3v3rs3
04-28-2015, 06:02 PM
Hammer party scene track missing, augh...

Everan Shepard
04-28-2015, 06:09 PM
What's all this talk about alternate/deleted scenes in the first Iron Man? I had no idea there were alternate scenes...

Yep, I don't know them all but there's one I wish it had been in: At the end, when Pepper fires the Ark Reactor and Obadiah falls in, the scene extends a bit more. He falls on part of the roof, and talks with Tony, sort of reminiscing how he was like a father to Tony. Even Tony tries to save him, but Obie falls and dies anyway.

Don't know about the other scenes

James P.Sullivan
04-28-2015, 07:40 PM
Yep, I don't know them all but there's one I wish it had been in: At the end, when Pepper fires the Ark Reactor and Obadiah falls in, the scene extends a bit more. He falls on part of the roof, and talks with Tony, sort of reminiscing how he was like a father to Tony. Even Tony tries to save him, but Obie falls and dies anyway.

Don't know about the other scenes

Oh - I've seen that one on YouTube! It's good... but I don't think Tony tries to save him. Initially, he does reach out and grasp Stane's hand, but then when Stane tries to pull him down with him, Tony releases the gauntlet from his own hand and Stane falls alone. I think. Can't rightly remember. :p

Scary Kitty
04-29-2015, 06:15 PM
Oh - I've seen that one on YouTube! It's good... but I don't think Tony tries to save him. Initially, he does reach out and grasp Stane's hand, but then when Stane tries to pull him down with him, Tony releases the gauntlet from his own hand and Stane falls alone. I think. Can't rightly remember. :p

You remember correctly. ;)

Also, FYI for anyone who's interested: This afternoon/evening, FX will be airing their extended cut of Iron Man in a triple header with Iron Man 2 and The Incredible Hulk. Check your local listings for showtimes. :)

James P.Sullivan
04-29-2015, 06:33 PM
You remember correctly. ;)

Also, FYI for anyone who's interested: This afternoon/evening, FX will be airing their extended cut of Iron Man in a triple header with Iron Man 2 and The Incredible Hulk. Check your local listings for showtimes. :)

Is there a breakdown of this "extended cut" somewhere? Are the cut scenes on YouTube? I have the 2-Disc Collector's Edition DVD - maybe they're on that...

Also, what's FX? Some US TV channel?

TheSkeletonMan939
04-29-2015, 06:57 PM
Also, what's FX? Some US TV channel?

Yeah. All they show is movies with lots of CGI. I guess to grab more viewers they add back deleted scenes.

James P.Sullivan
04-29-2015, 07:14 PM
Yeah. All they show is movies with lots of CGI. I guess to grab more viewers they add back deleted scenes.

Nice idea. Wish there was a channel here in Monstropolis that did the same. I'd love to see an extended cut of Iron Man.

Is there any way (and anyone who'd be willing to) to somehow 'rip' it? I don't really ever watch TV, so I'm not familiar with how that might be possible. Presumably it'll be available/shown online as well as on TV?

Scary Kitty
04-29-2015, 09:36 PM
Is there a breakdown of this "extended cut" somewhere? Are the cut scenes on YouTube? I have the 2-Disc Collector's Edition DVD - maybe they're on that...

Also, what's FX? Some US TV channel?

I think FX does have local channels in other countries, but I don't know if they've ever shown the extended cut outside the US. Some of the extended/deleted scenes that appear in the FX cut are on the Iron Man 1-Disc and 2-Disc Blu-ray editions (I'm assuming they're on the DVD as well): "Convoy Ambush", "Craps Table with Tony & Rhodey", and "Rhodey and General Gabriel". The deleted scene where Yinsen pretends to beat up on Tony (which the FX cut uses in place of the waterboarding scene in the theatrical cut) hasn't been officially released; I've also got the Phase One box set, and it wasn't included there.


Nice idea. Wish there was a channel here in Monstropolis that did the same. I'd love to see an extended cut of Iron Man.

Is there any way (and anyone who'd be willing to) to somehow 'rip' it? I don't really ever watch TV, so I'm not familiar with how that might be possible. Presumably it'll be available/shown online as well as on TV?

As far as I know, the FX cut is exclusive to FX and isn't available any other way except watching it through them. Or if someone rips it. ;)

James P.Sullivan
04-29-2015, 10:29 PM
I think FX does have local channels in other countries, but I don't know if they've ever shown the extended cut outside the US. Some of the extended/deleted scenes that appear in the FX cut are on the Iron Man 1-Disc and 2-Disc Blu-ray editions (I'm assuming they're on the DVD as well): "Convoy Ambush", "Craps Table with Tony & Rhodey", and "Rhodey and General Gabriel". The deleted scene where Yinsen pretends to beat up on Tony (which the FX cut uses in place of the waterboarding scene in the theatrical cut) hasn't been officially released; I've also got the Phase One box set, and it wasn't included there.



As far as I know, the FX cut is exclusive to FX and isn't available any other way except watching it through them. Or if someone rips it. ;)

I'll try to check out my 2-Disc DVD set.

Can somebody rip the extended cut? That'd be fantastic.

Lockdown
04-30-2015, 02:16 AM
If anyone wants to listen to Brian Tyler speaking about Age of Ultron: https://soundcloud.com/philharmonia/avengers-age-of-ultron-composer-brian-tyler-on-recording-the-soundtrack-at-abbey-road-studios

eglia
04-30-2015, 03:58 AM
Ok I don't get it?? Brian Tyler's 2 scores for Iron Man and Thor in particular were so epic in score, that Thor theme is brilliant but what happened here, the guy just delivers wall to wall generic action music whereas Danny Elfman is just amazing because his "Avengers Unite" is the highlight of the entire album and Film for that matter (WHEN THAT CUE PLAYED IN THE FILM...HOLY SHIT!!!!).

Also the score is mostly buried behind effects and I'm surprised that Brian Tyler didn't better use his Thor and Iron Man themes because there were plenty of moments especially for Iron Man where his theme could have come in with some heavy chorus but all he does is those few seconds when Iron Man fights Hulk.

And yes the film suffers from having so much cut out but anything cut out with Thor would just be more hints and massive build up to a particular title of Avengers 3.

darth2602
04-30-2015, 10:19 AM
Update 5 & 6 (05/30)


It Begins (Danny Elfman)
Breaking and Entering (Brian Tyler)
Avengers: Age of Ultron Title (Brian Tyler)
Birth of Ultron (Brian Tyler)
Ultron-Twins (Danny Elfman)
Keys to the Past (Brian Tyler) > Not sure
Hulkbuster (Brian Tyler)
Farmhouse (Danny Elfman)
Ultron Wakes (Danny Elfman) > Not sure
Darkest of Intentions (Brian Tyler) >Not sure
Seoul Searching (Brian Tyler)
The Vault (Brian Tyler) > Not sure
Vision (Brian Tyler)
The Mission (Brian Tyler)
The Battle (Brian Tyler)
Uprising (Brian Tyler)
Can You Stop This Thing? (Danny Elfman)
Fighting Back (Brian Tyler) > Not Sure
Inevitability - One Good Eye (Danny Elfman) > not sure
Outlook (Brin Tyler)
Avengers Unite (Danny Elfman)
Sacrifice (Brian Tyler)
The Last One (Brian Tyler)
The Farm (Danny Elfman)
Wish You Were Here (Brian Tyler)
Nothing Lasts Forever (Danny Elfman)
New Avengers-Avengers: Age of Ultron (Danny Elfman)
Rise Together (Brian Tyler) (Alternate)
Heroes (Danny Elfman) (Alternate)

R3v3rs3
05-01-2015, 03:22 PM
Fuaaaaa, home again.

10/10.

Master Piece.


And "I've Got No Strings" used in the movie, listed in the credits but not included in the soundtrack, WHY, WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ?????????????????????????? WHY THIS WORLD IS SO CRUEL?????



If anyone wants to listen to Brian Tyler speaking about Age of Ultron: https://soundcloud.com/philharmonia/avengers-age-of-ultron-composer-brian-tyler-on-recording-the-soundtrack-at-abbey-road-studios
Thanks for linking.

Rad�Max
05-02-2015, 03:58 AM
seen the movie twice and its a blasts!! the score is good, the most memorable of them is still the Silvestri theme though. thanks!!

scorecrazy69
05-02-2015, 06:20 AM
... here in Monstropolis...


Hahaha! Love it!

darth2602
05-03-2015, 07:54 PM
Could you help me to place all cue in chronological order ?

darth2602
05-08-2015, 01:25 PM
Update 7 (05/08)


Movie Order

It Begins
Breaking and Entering
Avengers: Age of Ultron Title
Birth of Ultron
Ultron-Twins
Keys to the Past
Hulkbuster
Farmhouse
Darkest of Intentions
Seoul Searching
The Vault
Vision
The Mission
The Battle
Inevitability - One Good Eye
Uprising
Can You Stop This Thing?
Fighting Back
Outlook
Avengers Unite
Sacrifice
The Last One
The Farm
Wish You Were Here
Nothing Lasts Forever
New Avengers-Avengers: Age of Ultron


Unused

Ultron Wakes (Alternate)
Rise Together (Alternate)
Heroes (Alternate)

Misc

I've Got No Strings (Movie Teaser Trailer)

AdrFax
05-11-2015, 05:04 AM
In response to @darth2602 asking for assistance, I've been analyzing the film this past week, and I've finally deciphered where most of the tracks go. Using a bootleg copy of the movie I "found lying around", I started to listen throughout and ordering the tracks. The playlist I've ended up with is something like this:





Track Title

Description


01 It Begins1
Marvel Logo and the attack starts


02 Breaking and Entering
Clint wounded, Avengers clear out, Tony discovers the scepter, Hulk's lullaby


03 Avengers: Age of Ultron Title
Tony takes the scepter


04 Birth of Ultron2
Tony and Bruce work to create Ultron; Ultron wakes up


05 Ultron/Twins3
Ultron summons the Maximoffs; the Twins' story


06 The Vault
Ultron attacks Klaue's vault, Avengers stand-off


07 Keys to the Past4
Widow, Thor and Cap have visions


08 Hulkbuster
Hulk and Iron Man fight


09 Farmhouse
Avengers arrive at Barton's house; Natasha and Bruce discuss their future


10 Darkest of Intentions5
Ultronbots escape Helen's lab with Vision cradle; Cap arrives and assists wounded Helen; Barton intercepts Ultron in truck


11 Seoul Searching6
Avengers attempt to seize the cradle


12 Can You Stop This Thing?
The Twins join the fight, face off Ultron; Scarlet Witch stops train


13 Ultron Wakes7
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14 Inevitability/One Good Eye8
Barton tracks old channels as Natasha transmits a message; Bruce and Tony work on the cradle and Cap arrives with the Twins


15 Vision
Vision rises from the cradle


16 The Mission
Team preps for battle, Cap's speech; the Twins warn sokovians and evacuation starts, Bruce finds Natasha


17 Uprising
Ultron's vibranium drill revealed, robots attack; city rises; Natasha summons the Hulk


18 The Battle
Iron Man, Cap and Thor rescue civillians; Barton and Wanda take cover; Pietro fights; Ultron takes Thor


19 Outlook
Ultron and Thor land in church; Cap and Widow take a pause from fighting; Helicarrier appears


20 Fighting Back
Vision hits Ultron with Mjolnir; Iron Man lifts rescue ship, Avengers regroup at church; Ultron's second wave of robots hits


21 Avengers Unite
Church fight


22 Darkest of Intentions5
Barton gets on a rescue ship; Widow's lullaby


23 Sacrifice9
Ultron shoots on Quinjet; Quicksilver dies; Hulk and Widow land on Helicarrier; Iron Man and Thor blow up city


24 The Last One
Hulk on Quinjet; Vision talks to Ultron


25 The Farm
Barton returns home; Avengers Academy


26 Wish You Were Here
Fury and Widow discuss Banner's whereabouts


27 Nothing Lasts Forever
Thor's farewell and departure


28 New Avengers/Avengers: Age of Ultron10
New team; end titles


Rise Together
Unused


Heroes
Unused, main Elfman theme





1 Only the first 45 seconds appear on the film, the rest is replaced with a set of Silvestri excerpts (brief phrases from cues 'A Little Help' and 'I Got A Ride', respectively) and followed by an alternate Elfman cue [heard when Iron Man takes flight and hits Struker's castle].

2 Only the first 1:42 min is heard on film, as Ultron attacks Jarvis. The rest is apparently unused.

3 The first half of the track appears to be replaced with an alternate version on the film. It's hard to hear due to the dialogue, but it doesn't match with the album version until Pietro talks aboout their family's disaster. Additionally, a portion of this track is heard earlier, during Stark's vision (the point between 1:50 to 2:27 min).

4 This cue is not used on the film, in its place we hear background music (mainly during Widow and Cap's dream sequences).

5 This cue should be spliced into two. The first 1:37 min belongs to the raid in Helen Cho's lab; the rest is heard when Natasha tries to lullaby Hulk in Sokovia.

6 Honestly, this track is terribly messed up on the film. The track goes normally (with a brief alternate portion as Widow cruises through the avenues) until she slides below Ultron's truck to hand Cap his shield; during this action, a portion of 'Avengers Unite' is tracked in, and it stops when Ultron rips the street apart and Widow pulls over. The 'Seoul Searching' track continues until Cap surfs over a car to jump back onto Ultron's truck; during this moment an excerpt from Silvestri's 'Assemble' is heard until Barton approaches on the Quinjet and fires at Ultron. After this, a portion of 'It Begins' is heard throughout the scene (the point between 0:45 to 1:17 min), as two ultronbots pursue the Quinjet, the Twins see the action on TV, and Ultron flies Cap into the nearby train. After that, an alternate cue is heard. The 'Seoul Searching' track resumes when Widow is inside the truck and looks into the cradle, as the ultronbots get to the sides of the truck and lift the container.

7 A cue that sounds like the beginning of this one (the first 33 seconds) is heard when Cap finds the twins on the street, and Wanda warns him about Tony using the cradle.

8 The beginning of this track (the first minute, exactly) is heard when Barton is tracking Natasha, and Cap and the twins walk in on Tony and Bruce altering the cradle. Additionally, another portion of the track (the point between 1:41 to 2:15 min) is heard in the third act, when Wanda exits her hideout and destroys some ultronbots aided by Barton. The rest of the track appears to be unused.

9 The cue heard when Cap and Barton take Pietro's body/Wanda kills Ultron's main vessel appears to be a source cue. I happened to see the film again last night and since the theater was kinda empty, that cue was heard mostly on the center speakers, with a lot of noise and clipping coming them, which didn't match the rest of the soundtrack. I also checked the score on wikipedia a few hours ago, and this track is listed at the bottom with other source cues (not sure if there's any truth to that though).

10 After a nice nod to Silvestri's Captain America theme is heard (during the first 17 seconds), the track is replaced with an excerpt of Silvestri's 'A Promise', which lasts until the end credits start.


I've tried to be as accurate and explicit as possible, and I'm sure about most of what I've gathered here. I could've been more certain if I had a clean copy of the film to work with, but until September I doubt that's possible; so for me, this'll do.
I hope any of this info is helpful for @darth2602 and anybody else who was curious :D

darth2602
05-11-2015, 08:42 AM
wow ! thanks so much !!!

A Fire Will Rise
05-11-2015, 02:24 PM
has anyone noticed that the track Sacrifice is longer in the movie, and way more awesome, then the soundtrack version?

Cameron007
05-11-2015, 05:43 PM
has anyone noticed that the track Sacrifice is longer in the movie, and way more awesome, then the soundtrack version?

The music you're thinking of is not actually by Tyler or Elfman. It existing long before the film even came out. It is called "Berliner Messer: Kyrie" by Arvo Part.

---------- Post added at 11:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:42 AM ----------


has anyone noticed that the track Sacrifice is longer in the movie, and way more awesome, then the soundtrack version?

The music you're thinking of is not actually by Tyler or Elfman. It existing long before the film even came out. It is called "Berliner Messer: Kyrie" by Arvo Part.

A Fire Will Rise
05-11-2015, 06:27 PM
The music you're thinking of is not actually by Tyler or Elfman. It existing long before the film even came out. It is called "Berliner Messer: Kyrie" by Arvo Part.

---------- Post added at 11:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:42 AM ----------



The music you're thinking of is not actually by Tyler or Elfman. It existing long before the film even came out. It is called "Berliner Messer: Kyrie" by Arvo Part.

thanks for the info!!!

raucous80cat
05-11-2015, 06:47 PM
Thank you very much!

GrayEdwards
05-12-2015, 07:10 AM
Do you happen to know where all of the source cues fit in? I'm assuming the Arvo Part cue comes after Sacrifice, but what about the other pieces:

1. Concerto In Do Maggiore Per Pianoforte Ed Orchestra: Larghetto – Ramin Djawadi
2. Themes From Marvel’s The Avengers – Alan Silvestri
3. Norma, Act I: ‘casta Diva’ – Maria Callas
4. Great Intentions – Damato
5. Liquid Spirit – Gregory Porter
6. I Can’t Get Started – Bbc Big Band Orchestra
7. Evening Of Elegance – Bill Keis
8. Drum Duel – Brian Tyler
9. I’ve Got No Strings – Dickie Jones
10. Cinderella, Op. 87 Ballet – Sergei Prokofiev
11. Berliner Messe: 1. Kyrie – Arvo P�rt
12. Full Dress Hop – Gene Krupa & His Orchestra

ttdd1986
05-12-2015, 09:06 AM
update 4 (04/28)

100% sure
It Begins (Danny Elfman)
Breaking and Entering (Brian Tyler)
Avengers: Age of Ultron Title (Brian Tyler)
Birth of Ultron (Brian Tyler)
Ultron-Twins (Danny Elfman)
Hulkbuster (Brian Tyler)
Farmhouse (Danny Elfman)
The Vault (Brian Tyler)
Seoul Searching (Brian Tyler)
Vision (Brian Tyler)
The Mission (Brian Tyler)
The Battle (Brian Tyler)
Uprising (Brian Tyler)
Can You Stop This Thing? (Danny Elfman)
Avengers Unite (Danny Elfman)
Outlook (Brian Tyler)
Sacrifice (Brian Tyler)
The Last One (Brian Tyler)
The Farm (Danny Elfman)
Wish You Were Here (Brian Tyler)
Nothing Lasts Forever (Danny Elfman)
New Avengers-Avengers: Age of Ultron (Danny Elfman)

???
Ultron Wakes (Danny Elfman) NOT SURE (alternate ?)
Darkest of Intentions (Brian Tyler) NOT SURE (alternate ?)
Keys to the Past (Brian Tyler) NOT SURE (alternate ?)
Fighting Back (Brian Tyler) NOT SURE (alternate ?)
Heroes (Danny Elfman) (End Tittle Alternate ?)
Rise Together (Brian Tyler) (Outlook alternate ?)
Inevitability - One Good Eye (Danny Elfman) (bonus track, suite ? alrternate ?)

Try Tyler's Furious 7 score, I'm done doing this on it... Cues mixed up in crazy ways...

And Alan's "Avengers Theme" still got it the whole time.

James P.Sullivan
05-12-2015, 10:50 AM
Do you happen to know where all of the source cues fit in?

1. Concerto In Do Maggiore Per Pianoforte Ed Orchestra: Larghetto � Ramin Djawadi

Isn't this what Stane plays when he brings back pizza to Tony's place in the first Iron Man??

AdrFax
05-12-2015, 03:55 PM
Do you happen to know where all of the source cues fit in? I'm assuming the Arvo Part cue comes after Sacrifice, but what about the other pieces:

1. Concerto In Do Maggiore Per Pianoforte Ed Orchestra: Larghetto – Ramin Djawadi
2. Themes From Marvel’s The Avengers – Alan Silvestri
3. Norma, Act I: ‘casta Diva’ – Maria Callas
4. Great Intentions – Damato
5. Liquid Spirit – Gregory Porter
6. I Can’t Get Started – Bbc Big Band Orchestra
7. Evening Of Elegance – Bill Keis
8. Drum Duel – Brian Tyler
9. I’ve Got No Strings – Dickie Jones
10. Cinderella, Op. 87 Ballet – Sergei Prokofiev
11. Berliner Messe: 1. Kyrie – Arvo P�rt
12. Full Dress Hop – Gene Krupa & His Orchestra

Aside from the Silvestri themes I mentioned before, there's a Silvestri cue when the Quinjet lands on the new Stark Tower for the first time; but this cue is from the Avengers sessions (a track called 'Arriving on the Helicarrier', I believe). I've also read that the end credits have Silvestri themes but I never stayed past the Thanos scene, so I'm not sure :(

I'm also thinking that Tyler's 'Drum Duel' belongs to the party scene with Thor's hammer.

scarecrow9
05-18-2015, 11:08 AM
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Jensen52
05-23-2015, 03:59 AM
Thank you very much!

Agent99
05-26-2015, 11:56 AM
Thanks very much :)

TheCountess
06-08-2015, 05:07 AM
Love this. Thanks!

Mrcool210
06-08-2015, 09:12 PM
It really sucks that some of the actual tracks used in the movie arn't on this soundtrack. Mainly the one i like the most which is the track that plays when (SPOILER) Quicksilver dies and when wanda pulls out ultrons harddrive, the choir in that scene is amazing. And we may never hear it officially outside of the movie

Cameron007
06-08-2015, 10:45 PM
Outside the movie. You mean, like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCW5JoFZILk

Thank me later :)

MojaveMissile
10-09-2015, 07:11 PM
Thank you!

Cameron007
10-18-2015, 09:36 PM
I really hope the sessions come around soon. Many of the cues on the album are alternates (Uprising, Outlook, the last part of Sacrifice just to name a few).