Pessoa8
01-16-2015, 06:15 AM
The price of the vinyl will be worth it, I'm sure of it
I wouldn't count on it, dude. It would require some serious remastering work and a decent pressing plant to make this sound good on wax. This release was botched from the start, I don't see why the vinyl version would be any different. I'm sad to say it, being a vinyl-only kinda guy myself.
DAKoftheOTA
01-16-2015, 06:23 AM
I wouldn't count on it, dude. It would require some serious remastering work and a decent pressing plant to make this sound good on wax. This release was botched from the start, I don't see why the vinyl version would be any different. I'm sad to say it, being a vinyl-only kinda guy myself.
Well word has it it'll be different than the OST. I've been told this by numerous people. Furthermore, it would have been released already if it was not being properly mastered and pressed, don't you think?
Pessoa8
01-16-2015, 07:31 AM
Well word has it it'll be different than the OST. I've been told this by numerous people. Furthermore, it would have been released already if it was not being properly mastered and pressed, don't you think?
Well, that's good news - I hope you're right. Although the delay doesn't necessarily tell us anything about the potential quality of the pressing. These days many, many pressings are delayed due to the increased demand on pressing plants. In fact, delays are more likely at the cheaper plants, as these are now saturated with major label reissues and the like. A delay with Interstellar could actually indicate that they're using a poor plant (like GZ in Czech or MPO in France). The remastering itself isn't what takes up the time, it's the pressing.
Also, I believe it's being released by Music On Vinyl, which has a rather hit and miss reputation. Fingers crossed, eh? ;)
last_first5573
01-17-2015, 04:56 PM
Thanks so much for this upload!
Tiesto
01-17-2015, 07:53 PM
wow thank's too much ! fantastic work ! is there any chance you upload the DTS version available in the Z+ app ?
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-18-2015, 03:11 AM
DTS version available in the Z+ app ?
I imagine like all the previous Z+ versions, they're not DTS and just MP3 (maybe matrix encoded).
But it's useless unless you have DTS receiver with the new DTS 11.1.
And you can't use it on your own Z+ app either, it does licence checks to see if you actually purchased it and redeemed a key on it.
theiss2003
01-18-2015, 10:45 AM
Did anyone else notice an annoying click on "Tick-Tock" at around 05:30 ?
Curious, if this is caused by a bad rip or also hearable on the original disc...
DjawadiFan
01-18-2015, 10:50 PM
Did anyone else notice an annoying click on "Tick-Tock" at around 05:30 ?
Curious, if this is caused by a bad rip or also hearable on the original disc...
It's the original remastering, not the CD rip. I'm not annoyed, because it happens.
Lockdown
01-18-2015, 11:08 PM
Did anyone else notice an annoying click on "Tick-Tock" at around 05:30 ?
Curious, if this is caused by a bad rip or also hearable on the original disc...
What are you tocking about? I hear it, but, it's not that noticeable. Now that you mentioned it, I'll hear it every time..
DAKoftheOTA
01-18-2015, 11:12 PM
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-18-2015, 11:20 PM
I'll hear it every time..
:sad: I'm not going to listen to it anymore until I forget I read about this...
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A PLAGUE ON ALL YOUR HOUSES!!! :mad:
DjawadiFan
01-18-2015, 11:26 PM
It happens, guys. Forget it.
penner101
01-18-2015, 11:40 PM
:sad: I'm not going to listen to it anymore until I forget I read about this...
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A PLAGUE ON ALL YOUR HOUSES!!! :mad:
Since we are talking about the fails of this soundtrack:
What's up with this spike at around 15.7kHz on the interstellar soundtrack? Only some tracks have it but damn does it hurt my ears :/. : audioengineering (
http://www.reddit.com/r/audioengineering/comments/2mszh4/whats_up_with_this_spike_at_around_157khz_on_the/)
Have fun with further listening :D
Yourfavoratemusic
01-18-2015, 11:43 PM
there are clicks and pops in both releases of No Time for Caution, heard easily if you turn it up a little. A lot of people blame my mixing when it comes down to the fan made edit thinking I fucked up and caused clipping but in reality it was in the original track that Hans released on itunes
DAKoftheOTA
01-18-2015, 11:43 PM
Since we are talking about the fails of this soundtrack:
What's up with this spike at around 15.7kHz on the interstellar soundtrack? Only some tracks have it but damn does it hurt my ears :/. : audioengineering (
http://www.reddit.com/r/audioengineering/comments/2mszh4/whats_up_with_this_spike_at_around_157khz_on_the/)
Seriously, without going through every single comment in that thread (I have a life), what track is it, and which version of the score
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-18-2015, 11:56 PM
What's up with this spike at around 15.7kHz on the interstellar soundtrack? Only some tracks have it but damn does it hurt my ears :/. : audioengineering (
http://www.reddit.com/r/audioengineering/comments/2mszh4/whats_up_with_this_spike_at_around_157khz_on_the/)
Message From Home.
The HDtracks purchase.

That is incredibly loud. Usually never that loud.
The next track: "The Wormhole"
HDT again.

Not as loud as the previous track.
But, I think I've lost the ability to hear that frequency because it doesn't affect me.
The reddit talks about some guys wife asking why he put a dog whistle in the music.
I can't hear it, so I'm going deaf.
But, regarding the frequencies in general to the score, some parts do hurt my ears a lot.
Even Mountains has it:

DAKoftheOTA
01-19-2015, 12:00 AM
Well then maybe people just shouldn't listen to the HDT version? Sucks to be them, I suppose :D
Yourfavoratemusic
01-19-2015, 12:07 AM
This was a problem before HDT's release, so I know it isn't just them who were affected.
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-19-2015, 12:22 AM
clicks and pops in both releases of No Time for Caution, heard easily if you turn it up a little.
I must be going really deaf (more than usual) because I don't hear these clicks/pops.
With heaphones on.
heard easily if you turn it up a little.
Probably why I go deaf.
I used to listen to music loudly all the time on my walkman and the like when I was younger.
Plus a few concerts probably did irrepable damage.
By the time Marilyn Manson got on stage, I had no idea he was playing the very song I wanted to hear.
We were sitting in the nosebleed seats (cheap). I guess we got the brunt of the acoustics in that crummy place.
Going to change the system speaker properties to 44.1 instead of 48 and give the album a full listen again.
Playing back on Foobar2000 with ASIO4ALL drivers (most recent version) for output to 2.0.
ReplayGain set to "track" mode & "apply gain and prevent clipping according to peak".
22 - No Time for Caution.flac
Track gain : -1.42 dB
Track peak : 0.949219
Album gain : -1.68 dB
Album peak : 1.000000
The only DSP in effect is "AdvancedLimiter" which only limits audio if clipping occurs, but with RG enabled, that should happen.
System speakers also have zero effects enabled (Enhancements -> "disable all sound effects" including disabled "loudness equalization").
Try to hear these pop/clicks through headphones.
I did notice the first time I listened to the OST that there were some tracks that sounded like it suffered from clipping, but wasn't sure if that was my system setup or not.
But, going to give it a thorough listen now.
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Well then maybe people just shouldn't listen to the HDT version? Sucks to be them, I suppose :D
They don't touch the masters they get from studios.
It's apparent on all versions. Regular and deluxe. Even the iTunes version as Tlyer points out with the clipping.
We all got screwed.
DAKoftheOTA
01-19-2015, 12:22 AM
I must be going really deaf (more than usual) because I don't hear these clicks/pops.
With heaphones on.
Same here
They don't touch the masters they get from studios.
It's apparent on all versions. Regular and deluxe. Even the iTunes version as Tlyer points out with the clipping.
We all got screwed.
Even on the FYC tracks? That's all I listen to, so if it's not present on the FYC then I wouldn't know. But if they are on the FYC then I'm deafinitely going deaf :awsm:
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-19-2015, 12:23 AM
Lockdown's Illuminated Star Project analysis of "Message From Home".

DAKoftheOTA
01-19-2015, 12:25 AM
Looks identical to the HD tracks version
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-19-2015, 12:27 AM
Day One does give me some ringing effect through headphones.
Not going to scan it, but I imagine the 16kHz note is there.
I'll have to look for the FYC again.
It's on one of the externals, and I don't want to download it again.
Pretty sure the tracks needed to be fixed with Foobar2000 for VBR headers.
TechTuts
01-19-2015, 12:27 AM
I made my own version from this release without the spikes at 15.7kHz, will upload it if anyone wants it
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-19-2015, 12:43 AM
I made my own version from this release without the spikes at 15.7kHz, will upload it if anyone wants it
What did you do to it?
Technical details, please.
I'm going to have to download the FYC again. Pretty sure I lost it...
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FYC MP3 & OGG have it too.
Message From Home FYC MP3
Message From Home FYC OGG
"Afraid of Time" hurts my ears too when the piano starts out.
TechTuts
01-19-2015, 12:44 AM
What did you do to it?
Technical details, please.
I'm going to have to download the FYC again. Pretty sure I lost it...
Used iZotope RX3, selected the effected part of the track, checked the frequencies using the spectrum analyzer and removed those frequencies using the remove hum tool (base frequency free, notch frequency ~15795hz (sometimes other frequencies also), filter Q 1500, harmonic gains -10 to -30dB)
Here is mountains after processing:

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-19-2015, 12:50 AM
Interesting. I wouldn't mind giving it a listen to compare to the Hertz Edition (hertz = hurts).
TechTuts
01-19-2015, 12:53 AM
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-19-2015, 01:01 AM
(except the poem)

You win the internet.
bporter
01-19-2015, 01:20 AM
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-19-2015, 02:37 AM
It's official: I'm deaf.
On those settings I posted earlier, I can't hear crap on my headphones.
They're Japanese, too. So you know they're fancy.
:laugh:
They're Sony.
Can't find the exact model anywhere.... $45.
48kHz. some other stuff...
DAKoftheOTA
01-19-2015, 02:45 AM
Mine are JVC (a brand I never liked) but they were $50 and are massive. They'd put Leia's buns to shame
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-19-2015, 02:53 AM
They'd put Leia's buns to shame
:treknod:
mirren
01-19-2015, 06:52 AM
Thank you Lockdown.
twicker
01-19-2015, 11:09 AM
Thanks Lockdown!
Used iZotope RX3, selected the effected part of the track, checked the frequencies using the spectrum analyzer and removed those frequencies using the remove hum tool (base frequency free, notch frequency ~15795hz (sometimes other frequencies also), filter Q 1500, harmonic gains -10 to -30dB)
Thanks TechTuts for sharing your fixes, and for this description. I had a huge problem with this noise. I don't have much knowledge regarding this and had fixed it using Audition by simply hand-selecting the affected part and Audition cleans it pretty well, but your method and spectogram look way better.
For people who can't hear the noise, try listening to 'Message from Home' from the original release. Personally, I thought that was the worst affected. More than half of the tracks on the release are affected, though. The FYC tracks are affected as well. Hoping they manage to notice and fix this for the vinyl release.
daypass
01-19-2015, 11:20 AM
For people who can't hear the noise, try listening to 'Message from Home' from the original release. Personally, I thought that was the worst affected. More than half of the tracks on the release are affected, though. The FYC tracks are affected as well. Hoping they manage to notice and fix this for the vinyl release.
Yeah, I boosted the high end on some affected tracks a few weeks ago to bring it into a range I could hear, and the score is indeed cursed. The Reddit page seems to have identified it as a stage monitor frequency, which seems to be accurate. When I was a kid/teen I could hear a high-pitched whine from televisions and "silent" alarms and such, but as people grow older those frequencies become inaudible. The only way to fix it is to literally knock out that frequency range, which also contains music. The "Interstellar" audio recording sessions are now entered into the recording engineer's *d'oh* file.
Vinyl has it's own issues (like fidelity diminishing with every rotation), so a remaster for that format might only help with a new batch of MP3s for the included download code.
penner101
01-19-2015, 12:53 PM
Sry for what I've kicked off with that reddit post :D
@Sparktank: Maybe it's just your headphones, I'm using Beyerdynamic DT-880 which (like all the BD) have a peak at around 8KHz..
For "Mountains" I'm just quoting of the reddit thread:
Try "08 Mountains" It starts at 00:30min and gets louder, clearly noticable from 01:00min on and has its peak at 01:30min - 01:50!
But as already mentionend here, "Message from Home" is the worst..just from the beginning on.
I don't know why they didn't notice these noises at production...It's a shame. But the reddit thread is very interesting, the noise could come from a CRT (which can be seen in the making of at Youtube!) or other electric devices at the same electric circuit like the recording devices..
There's also a guy who worked for a Hobbit Trailer, in which "Pippin' s song" was used (LOTR #3 movie). In the movie itself there was a very strong high-frequency noise in that scene, but that (young) guy removed it for the Hobbit trailer - no one else of the production/mixing thread could hear it...people are too old in this business I guess.
TechTuts
01-19-2015, 03:32 PM
Sry for what I've kicked off with that reddit post :D
@Sparktank: Maybe it's just your headphones, I'm using Beyerdynamic DT-880 which (like all the BD) have a peak at around 8KHz..
For "Mountains" I'm just quoting of the reddit thread:
But as already mentionend here, "Message from Home" is the worst..just from the beginning on.
I don't know why they didn't notice these noises at production...It's a shame. But the reddit thread is very interesting, the noise could come from a CRT (which can be seen in the making of at Youtube!) or other electric devices at the same electric circuit like the recording devices..
There's also a guy who worked for a Hobbit Trailer, in which "Pippin' s song" was used (LOTR #3 movie). In the movie itself there was a very strong high-frequency noise in that scene, but that (young) guy removed it for the Hobbit trailer - no one else of the production/mixing thread could hear it...people are too old in this business I guess.
Pretty much all of the LOTR tracks have that (eg. the shire, bag end, rivendell, the sword was broken).
Found the click in Tick-tock

Looks like they were careless when combining two bits of track
I can fix the other clicks/pops if you tell me what part of the track they are in
Edit: Link to fixed Tick-tock (
https://mega.co.nz/#!hgBwkLzK!JzfgF90UBwkDUSClIHFiE_Dfa0DrBbjT8w71obg 8lVo)
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-19-2015, 04:17 PM
@Sparktank: Maybe it's just your headphones
No idea. I could also be deaf.
A friend was playing with frequency notes on his phone from the Zedge app.
He played one note that I couldn't hear. His wife heard it, but not me.
It wasn't until he put it right up to my year that I finally heard it.
I'm not investing in new headphones any time soon. These ones are already getting flaky cushions, but I can't afford new headphones until it's actually needed.
Even then, it'll be just the same $50 headphones, too.
But, I still haven't listened to TechTuts edition yet.
Later today, I'll be able to play his version in a blind abx with the retail version. Maybe I'll actually notice a difference.
GauthierG
01-19-2015, 05:24 PM
Can't hear any noise ? what does it sound like ?
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-19-2015, 05:27 PM
what does it sound like ?
Like the song of a thousand angels. :sad:
All happy and warm.
It's beautiful~
penner101
01-19-2015, 05:30 PM
It sounds similar to this (didn't find a 15.6 KHz sound yet):
(be careful and reduce your volume before to the lowest level to avoid any ear damage)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSozmeBpRMw (don't take it as a serious hearing test, because youtube compresses everytrhing a lot, it's just an example of how the noise in some of the songs is)
Kadron
01-19-2015, 05:53 PM
goddamnit
Now I hear the click too
I was perfectly happy with my ignorance
Thanks for fixing it Technuts
saves me trouble
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-19-2015, 06:04 PM
It sounds similar to this (didn't find a 15.6 KHz sound yet):
(be careful and reduce your volume before to the lowest level to avoid any ear damage)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSozmeBpRMw (don't take it as a serious hearing test, because youtube compresses everytrhing a lot, it's just an example of how the noise in some of the songs is)
[Prof.Farnsworth]
Huzzahhhhhhhh!
Good news, everybody!
I couldn't hear it a %30 volume level (of the total maximum I can increase volume on the PC) through headhones.
But increasing to %60, I can faintly hear it.
No wonder I can't hear it when I listen to any of the albums.
My headset is always no more than %30.
I usually have it a %20 volume level.
%25 if I feel like living on the dangerous side. :devil:
When I listen to this score at %30, I feel pressure on my ears for some parts, so have to lower it or burst my ear drums.
So in short, it pays to be deaf to a certain degree. :)
[/Prof.Farnsworth]
theiss2003
01-19-2015, 06:09 PM
Thanks for the excellent fix TechTuts!
Tiesto
01-19-2015, 08:12 PM
I cannot understand why HZ fucked up like this on this soundtrack....
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-19-2015, 08:23 PM
I cannot understand why HZ fucked up like this on this soundtrack....
He did let "uh oh" stay in the final mix of the Man of Steel soundtrack. For the retail OST, the film, everything.
Girtastic
01-20-2015, 03:00 AM
He did let "uh oh" stay in the final mix of the Man of Steel soundtrack. For the retail OST, the film, everything.
it adds character :v
jaroshulk28
01-20-2015, 03:45 AM
Thank you!
twicker
01-20-2015, 07:15 AM
He did let "uh oh" stay in the final mix of the Man of Steel soundtrack. For the retail OST, the film, everything.
Wasn't that supposed to be an easter egg? That was Zack Snyder's daughter whose voice got picked up during the recording sessions.
And isn't this the fault of the people in the sound engineering or mixing department?
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-20-2015, 07:34 AM
It's hidious.
IIRC, Snyder said it sounds cute so he demanded it stay in.
It's an abomination.

twicker
01-20-2015, 07:42 AM
It's hidious.
IIRC, Snyder said it sounds cute so he demanded it stay in.
It's an abomination.
Agreed, they should've removed it from Oil Rig, and could've let it stay on the end credits. But it doesn't sound as if Zimmer or someone else mistakenly let it stay on the soundtrack.
Though, the story behind the "uh-oh" does indeed sound cute. This is from the Watertower Music facebook page:
"Zack (Snyder) carried his daughter on his shoulders on the scoring-stage. She was watching with total fascination. When Nick Glennie-Smith, our conductor raised his arms over his head to give the musicians the downbeat, she could help but go: "Uh-Oh!". Perfectly covered innocence by all the microphones."
ROKUSHO
01-20-2015, 07:42 AM
Mine are JVC (a brand I never liked) but they were $50 and are massive. They'd put Leia's buns to shame
mine are custom made.
they used to be peltor earmuffs, designed to mute gunshots.
when i opened them i saw they had a small car loudspeaker each. the max volume can make deaf people complain its too noisy.
and since they are peltor, when pressured (it almost hurts) against ears, no sound can be heard by anyone else, but once the earmuffs are clear, they can sound across the whole room, even with outside noise.
bought them on a flea market and i consider them the best headphones of all time.
dont know if quality is super duper crystal clear, but i think its close enough. all i wanted was complete, total isolation.
this thing puts the noise cancelling in noise cancelling. whoever made them, has my eternal gratitude
SonicAdventure
01-20-2015, 08:53 PM
I can�t believe that people talk for hours and hours about the high-frequency noise produced by CRT-monitors! They have bugged me for years and I always remove them with a notch-filter (really; on most of my Deluxe Editions it�s inaudible). Though as I�m getting older I cannot here them that easily anymore. My hearing officially ends around 16 kHz - pretty good for a person my age but still nothing to get mad about. If you want to listen to really obnoxious examples of this CRT noise I recommend Chris Young's 'Excorcism of Emily Rose' or 'The Grudge', Silvestri's 'Predator' (that one contains even a modulated alias at roughly 10,350 Hz), almost any Goldsmith score from the '90s... and other scores I can�t remember right now.
The CRT sine is at exactly 15,734 Hz (most of the time) and can be easily lowered with a notch filter.
Regarding the talk about headphones: many cheap circumaural, closed headphones (which I assume most of you own) aren�t well constructed. With a closed headphone, construction and material are everything so cheap material equals cheap sound. There are exceptions. And a word about Japanese headphones by the famous company with the four letters starting with "S": they aren�t the best on the market.
I can recommend these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0093PVTPS/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1TFG225AJ1H7Q77ZPBKS&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1970559082&pf_rd_i=desktop
Amazon.com: Fischer Audio FA-003Ti Noise Isloation Earcups Headphones with Titanium Drivers with New Headband Design: Electronics (
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DS8RQK8/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1TFG225AJ1H7Q77ZPBKS&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1970559082&pf_rd_i=desktop)
Amazon.com: Brainwavz HM5 Studio Monitor Headphones: Electronics (
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006MA9XXM/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1TFG225AJ1H7Q77ZPBKS&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1970559082&pf_rd_i=desktop)
Those three basically are the same headphone. Their sound is pretty balanced but they aren�t for bassheads. Oh, and they come from Russia and are manufactured in China. Wearing them, you truly look like Princess Leia. But who cares if they sound well?
This one is good too (but the noise-cancellation circuitry is a joke):
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-982-000079-6000-Headphones-Discontinued/dp/B0094S36RI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421783171&sr=8-1&keywords=logitech+ue+6000&pebp=1421783176861&peasin=B0094S36RI
Those are a classic and they are fairly balanced (apart from a slight bass and treble bump): Amazon.com: Creative Aurvana Live! Headphones: Electronics (
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ZJZ7OA/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i7?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1TFG225AJ1H7Q77ZPBKS&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1970559082&pf_rd_i=desktop)
These sound fairly warm but charming; for bassheads: Amazon.com: Philips L1/28 Fidelio Over-Ear Headphones with Remote and Mic (Discontinued by Manufacturer): Electronics (
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006RUIWC0/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i15?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1TFG225AJ1H7Q77ZPBKS&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1970559082&pf_rd_i=desktop)
But the best headphones are these: Amazon.com: Audio-Technica ATH-M50x Professional Studio Monitor Headphones: Musical Instruments (
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HVLUR86/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i14?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1TFG225AJ1H7Q77ZPBKS&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1970559082&pf_rd_i=desktop)
It�s the newest version of Audio Technica's classic. It�s a professional headphone, it�ll show errors with immaculate precision but will sound well with most recordings. Great bass, perhaps a tad too strong. My go-to headphone for portable use. Oh, and it�s easy to drive.
DAKoftheOTA
01-20-2015, 08:56 PM
SonicAdventure
01-20-2015, 09:01 PM
theeaglesfan005
01-20-2015, 09:21 PM
These are what I use:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009A6CZ12/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'm fucked if they get ruined or I lose them as sony doesn't make them anymore
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-20-2015, 10:22 PM
Those are a classic and they are fairly balanced (apart from a slight bass and treble bump): Amazon.com: Creative Aurvana Live! Headphones: Electronics (
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ZJZ7OA/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i7?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1TFG225AJ1H7Q77ZPBKS&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1970559082&pf_rd_i=desktop)
The cheapest I can afford.
I was making fun of emphasing on the Japanese name as I often hear people like to brag that because it's Japanese or German hardware, it's GOT to be the best product on the face of the 3 dimensional universe.
The last 2 I could probably save up for.
In time for Christmas.
ROKUSHO
01-20-2015, 11:38 PM
these are mine:
Amazon.com : 3M Peltor Ultimate 10 Hearing Protector : Home Improvement (
http://www.amazon.com/3M-Peltor-Ultimate-Hearing-Protector/dp/B000PW98WO/ref=pd_sim_hi_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=1G384SDNFGBYR1TD04RE)
remember, its custom made so imagine theres a small stereo loudspeaker on each side and a cord on the right side.
SonicAdventure
01-20-2015, 11:44 PM
The cheapest I can afford.
I was making fun of emphasing on the Japanese name as I often hear people like to brag that because it's Japanese or German hardware, it's GOT to be the best product on the face of the 3 dimensional universe.
The last 2 I could probably save up for.
In time for Christmas.
The Creative Aurvana Live! certainly is a good headphone. Its successor isn�t even half that good. The Creative was engineered by Foster; that company also produced the AH-D 1001 for Denon which is exactly the same headphone apart from some cosmetic changes.
But if I were you, I�d save for the Audio Technica. My Superman set wouldn�t be the same without it.
Talking about German headphone manufacturers: they are indeed pretty good. Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic, AKG (actually they�re Austrian) are rightfully famous for several models they released over the years. Sennheiser's HD-580 was pretty groundbreaking, its successor HD-600 still is one of the best headphones on the market even though it�s almost 20 years old. Though I would not ever say that all of these companies produce the best products. They have some models that are... far away from being good and certainly overrated regarding their astronomic price.
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these are mine:
Amazon.com : 3M Peltor Ultimate 10 Hearing Protector : Home Improvement (
http://www.amazon.com/3M-Peltor-Ultimate-Hearing-Protector/dp/B000PW98WO/ref=pd_sim_hi_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=1G384SDNFGBYR1TD04RE)
remember, its custom made so imagine theres a small stereo loudspeaker on each side and a cord on the right side.
Wow, I�m sure you look like your avatar wearing them :D
broly_lssj
01-20-2015, 11:48 PM
Many thanks! Was waiting for this for a long time.
Edit: Holy cow, Tick Tock is so freakin awesome, I cannot stop hearing it :O
ROKUSHO
01-20-2015, 11:49 PM
no different from the headphones the above posters use for what i can tell.
appearance is irrelevant when looking for comfort and literal noise cancelation. this custom earmuff provide both things.
Kara Whicker
01-21-2015, 04:27 AM
I thought I was going deaf hearing those noises in the track (I sometime hears them while lying down on bed) but apparently it is the opposite.
DAKoftheOTA
01-21-2015, 04:56 AM
I thought I was going deaf hearing those noises in the track
1m01 Dreaming of the Crash? That track is the best through headphones.....seriously, my head vibrates. It's pure awesomeness
Lockdown
01-21-2015, 05:04 AM
I am currently ripping the End Credits from the Interstellar DVDScr :)
theeaglesfan005
01-21-2015, 05:09 AM
I am currently ripping the End Credits from the Interstellar DVDScr :)
Already ahead of you, Decepticon Punk :P
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/interstellar-complete-score-182506/34.html#post2871328
GrayEdwards
01-21-2015, 05:14 AM
No idea what's going on here, but I just thought I drop what I rock out with. I've had them for two years now and I'm pretty happy with them. A whole lot nicer than the standard Apple earbuds.
Sennheiser HD 518 - Audio Headphones - Music - Stereo, HiFi, TV (
http://en-us.sennheiser.com/audio-headphones-stereo-hifi-tv-hd-518)
Lockdown
01-21-2015, 05:15 AM
How did you rip it? Just curious.
DAKoftheOTA
01-21-2015, 05:20 AM
A whole lot nicer than the standard Apple earbuds.
Anything and everything is nicer than Apple's piece of shit earbuds. They suck.
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-21-2015, 05:20 AM
Since it's AC3, I imagine anything (recent) will do.
Most smart software is FFMPEG-based.
FFMPEG can decode AC3 perfectly.
Though, since it's a screener, 'spect it to receive a DMCA takedown pretty soon.
The Hobbit screener didn't last very long.
DAKoftheOTA
01-21-2015, 05:23 AM
My question is - why isn't the screener popping up in HD? The screeners this year (for Interstellar) were Blu-rays
Lockdown
01-21-2015, 05:46 AM
gerson55
01-21-2015, 08:14 AM
thanks a lot
badabidibu
01-21-2015, 08:26 AM
Sennheiser HD-25 ;-)
SonicAdventure
01-21-2015, 01:23 PM
Sennheiser HD-25 ;-)
Oooh, that�s a good one!
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No idea what's going on here, but I just thought I drop what I rock out with. I've had them for two years now and I'm pretty happy with them. A whole lot nicer than the standard Apple earbuds.
Sennheiser HD 518 - Audio Headphones - Music - Stereo, HiFi, TV (
http://en-us.sennheiser.com/audio-headphones-stereo-hifi-tv-hd-518)
Those are good too. Though a bit light on subbass for my personal taste.
badabidibu
01-21-2015, 01:34 PM
The best i've ever had! :-)
Catvision247
01-21-2015, 01:40 PM
Thanks very much!
theeaglesfan005
01-21-2015, 02:15 PM
How did you rip it? Just curious.
I told MediaHuman (
http://www.mediahuman.com/) to convert just the audio starting at 2:43:57 to the end
mr_merrick
01-21-2015, 02:21 PM
Any spec on the screener yet? ie. 5.1 audio, HD, IMAX framing etc? Can't find anything yet. Any pointers?
Also Sennheiser HD25 1-II headphones are all I ever use lately
foxtown
01-21-2015, 02:24 PM
I just edited the video down to the last 5 minutes... then converted that to mp3
ffmpeg said the bitrate was 128... so i just converted it to 129 mp3
The quality should be 224k, that's what the nfo says.
You reduced the quality of the track, even if you might think converting a 128k files with a 129k setting wouldn't harm the sound. Believe me, it did.
I comapred it with Lockdowns End Credits and the quality on that is better.
You can't convert a lossy source into another lossy format with a higher bitrate without reducing the quality of the audio.
You need to convert the lossy source into a lossless format like wav, aif, flac, alac,... that makes it not real lossless - it's still lossy - but the quality of the audio is preserved like the original source.
theeaglesfan005
01-21-2015, 02:39 PM
Any spec on the screener yet? ie. 5.1 audio, HD, IMAX framing etc? Can't find anything yet. Any pointers?
Also Sennheiser HD25 1-II headphones are all I ever use lately
Video: 720x314 @bitrate 1700 2pass
Audio: English AC3 2.0 Stereo
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The quality should be 224k, that's what the nfo says.
You reduced the quality of the track, even if you might think converting a 128k files with a 129k setting wouldn't harm the sound. Believe me, it did.
I comapred it with Lockdowns End Credits and the quality on that is better.
You can't convert a lossy source into another lossy format with a higher bitrate without reducing the quality of the audio.
You need to convert the lossy source into a lossless format like wav, aif, flac, alac,... that makes it not real lossless - it's still lossy - but the quality of the audio is preserved like the original source.
How do you know the audio is 224k?
like i said the command line ffmpeg -i said it was only 128k
And sure Lockdown's may be better.. he may have fancy audio software... i do not
foxtown
01-21-2015, 02:56 PM
Video: 720x314 @bitrate 1700 2pass
Audio: English AC3 2.0 Stereo
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How do you know the audio is 224k?
It says so in the nfo. Go to the bottom there are the specs for the audio stream.
like i said the command line ffmpeg -i said it was only 128k
And sure Lockdown's may be better.. he may have fancy audio software... i do not
Extract the audio stream without any editing (maybe this will do it: AviDemux 2.6.8 v2 / 210115 beta (
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/AviDemux) ) and open the extracted audio stream in Audacity (Freeware) and save the End Credits as WAV and all is fine.
After that, convert it to FLAC.
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You can also use the free tool MediaInfo (
http://mediaarea.net/de/MediaInfo) to check the bitrate.
theeaglesfan005
01-21-2015, 03:04 PM
It says so in the nfo. Go to the bottom there are the specs for the audio stream.
Extract the audio stream without any editing (maybe this will do it: AviDemux 2.6.8 v2 / 210115 beta (
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/AviDemux) ) and open the extracted audio stream in Audacity (Freeware) and save the End Credits as WAV and all is fine.
After that, convert it to FLAC.
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You can also use the free tool MediaInfo (
http://mediaarea.net/de/MediaInfo) to check the bitrate.
I do have audacity.. I'll give this a try later
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-21-2015, 03:51 PM
The ac3 can also be demuxed and then split with DelayCut.
Or remuxed to MKV but with "split to parts based on timecode/framecount/etc" and then demuxed for raw ac3.
Probably raw ac3 is best.
Since this is a screener, it was probably scrubbed like The Hobbit.
Did the NFO say anything about any kind of watermark? Or watermark removal?
theeaglesfan005
01-21-2015, 03:55 PM
The ac3 can also be demuxed and then split with DelayCut.
Or remuxed to MKV but with "split to parts based on timecode/framecount/etc" and then demuxed for raw ac3.
Probably raw ac3 is best.
Since this is a screener, it was probably scrubbed like The Hobbit.
Did the NFO say anything about any kind of watermark? Or watermark removal?
Description:
Source: DVDScr
thx m8, for coming through, bow
Notes:
looks like my last prediction came through, this one is the smash hit!!
will this beat hobbit? only one way to find out GO GET IT!!!
was very complicated to do, a lot more than i thought, but doable.
Encode:
quality was nice, the usual problems, all very reddish and not that bright.
it was a pita to do, fixing the colours, so that white is white and blue is blue without drowning the others
also fixed brightness,contrast,saturation without going over
removed all kind of watermarks and for security i had to cut in the frames a lot, around 50 cuts were needed, all clear now
for the resolution i had to find a middle-way, 720x304 was too small and 720x320 looked a bit off, so took what looks best.
had to resync audio cpl times too, no worries all is sync.
will do me till retail
enjoy
Video: 720x314 @bitrate 1700 2pass
Audio: English AC3 2.0 Stereo
Sample: yes included
Media Info:
Complete name : Interstellar.2014.DVDScr.XVID.AC3.HQ.Hive-CM8.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile : OpenDML
Format settings : rec
File size : 2.28 GiB
Duration : 2h 49mn
Overall bit rate : 1 932 Kbps
Writing application : AVI-Mux GUI 1.17.7, Aug 8 2006 20:59:17
Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP : 2
Format settings, QPel : Yes
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode : Packed bitstream
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 2h 49mn
Bit rate : 1 702 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 314 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.25:1
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.251
Stream size : 2.01 GiB (88%)
Writing library : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)
Audio
ID : 1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 2000
Duration : 2h 49mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 224 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 271 MiB (12%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 64 ms (1.92 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration : 192 ms
TechTuts
01-21-2015, 11:54 PM
daaocm
01-22-2015, 12:59 AM
Thanks...but for the life of me I can't seem to get MEGA to start downloading :(
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-22-2015, 07:18 AM
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
:erm: Not sure what's going on there...
If it was a DVD source, it should have been 23.976 telecined to 29.97.
Which means when you rip it, you should inversetelecine it back to 23.976 for clarity.
DVD screeners shouldn't be all that different.
Unless it was an interlaced source.
But, still, you should be able to deinterlace to a smooth 23.976, original fps.
I know films are filmed in 24pfs, but NTSC dvd/bd are transfered to 23.976.
Not sure the reasoning behind the fps.
I imagine a lot of people will watch and say "it's awesome" or some automatic bs.
The fact that such an ancient version of AVI-Mux was used AND such an outdated Xvid codec!!!
Makes me doubt the original encoder.
I'm sure they did a fine job scrubbing out the visual watermark details.
But still doesn't say if the inauble watermark was cleared.
The 29.97fps is completely baffling.
Looked it up and saw some screenshots.
It's deplorable.
JCH152
01-22-2015, 08:58 AM
The 29.97fps is completely baffling.
Looked it up and saw some screenshots.
It's deplorable.
Yeah, this guy has no clue how to export his edited screeners. There are plenty of other screeners that are at the standard 23.976 AND in 5.1, but he obviously edits in Windows Movie Maker or something that defaults at 29.97. The fact that his screeners are mostly in stereo make me think this is true, since WMM doesn't support 5.1.
Give me those damn screeners! I'll edit em 1:1 LOSSLESS!!!
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-22-2015, 09:42 AM
Give me those damn screeners! I'll edit em 1:1 LOSSLESS!!!
I'm with DAK. There needs to be blurays for screeners.
It's 2015. Handing people a DVD "for you consideration" is like handing out toothpaste and floss on halloween to trick'r'treaters. :notgood:
antovolk
01-22-2015, 10:55 AM
Yeah, this guy has no clue how to export his edited screeners. There are plenty of other screeners that are at the standard 23.976 AND in 5.1, but he obviously edits in Windows Movie Maker or something that defaults at 29.97. The fact that his screeners are mostly in stereo make me think this is true, since WMM doesn't support 5.1.
Give me those damn screeners! I'll edit em 1:1 LOSSLESS!!!
You do know the guy also has a bunch of 5.1 23.97fps quality screeners? Birdman, Imitation Game to name a few? They're fantastic quality wise! The difference is for those he actually had the full-size source DVD while for stuff like Interstellar I guess one of the issues is that whoever he got it from gave him an encoded stereo file already instead of the full disc...
Also Interstellar WAS sent on Blu-ray as well as DVD, just that the encryption on these is like Fort Knox apparently.
ArtBis
01-22-2015, 01:38 PM
Link is dead...Please re-up
Calidoran
01-22-2015, 02:33 PM
Link is dead...Please re-up
No it isn't... just checked
ArtBis
01-22-2015, 03:33 PM
No it isn't... just checked
Very bizarre, tried twice, said file not located here due to host violation rule or something. I'm paraphrasing. Good that it's not gone.
HDlossless
01-22-2015, 03:44 PM
Here is my rip of the end credits in FLAC (
https://mega.co.nz/#!J0RnhAQb!fayF3sTujXH0RGbHurrFb-oG5z057ePK7qxR7fiDLJc)
Thanks! its sound quality is pretty good! It's much better than previous mp3 file which was recorded at a theater.
I think this should be included in the first post!
TechTuts
01-22-2015, 04:51 PM
Thanks! its sound quality is pretty good! It's much better than previous mp3 file which was recorded at a theater.
I think this should be included in the first post!
Just re-ripped it, here (
https://mega.co.nz/#!Y8w2EYzR!3XvpHrzeHKkx0a5e4PebcSpY3elvOz4eOzgD0Bi 3Tug), removed the peak at 15.7KHz like I did with the soundtrack
penner101
01-22-2015, 08:35 PM
Oh there's a DVDScreener out yet?
I'm just waiting for the Bluray coming in march :)
It sounds similar to this (didn't find a 15.6 KHz sound yet):
(be careful and reduce your volume before to the lowest level to avoid any ear damage)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSozmeBpRMw (don't take it as a serious hearing test, because youtube compresses everytrhing a lot, it's just an example of how the noise in some of the songs is)
[Prof.Farnsworth]
Huzzahhhhhhhh!
Good news, everybody!
I couldn't hear it a %30 volume level (of the total maximum I can increase volume on the PC) through headhones.
But increasing to %60, I can faintly hear it.
No wonder I can't hear it when I listen to any of the albums.
My headset is always no more than %30.
I usually have it a %20 volume level.
%25 if I feel like living on the dangerous side. :devil:
When I listen to this score at %30, I feel pressure on my ears for some parts, so have to lower it or burst my ear drums.
So in short, it pays to be deaf to a certain degree. :)
[/Prof.Farnsworth]
I can hear it at the lowest level (3%) of my max volume (Sound Blaster Z, Headphones) :D
And since everyone's posting his/her headphones, this are mine:
http://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-880-Premium-250-ohm/dp/B000F2BLTM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1421955033
TechTuts
01-22-2015, 08:50 PM
Here (
https://mega.co.nz/#!R4xglJBJ!ayYB9oNkyujl7lMGBzyKcvWJcIpaMbAgh6xPpOs WZh8)is the soundtrack with the 15.7khz bit removed if you missed it
Plus tick-tock with the fixed clicking sound (
https://mega.co.nz/#!hgBwkLzK!JzfgF90UBwkDUSClIHFiE_Dfa0DrBbjT8w71obg 8lVo)
Oh there's a DVDScreener out yet?
I'm just waiting for the Bluray coming in march :)
I can hear it at the lowest level (3%) of my max volume (Sound Blaster Z, Headphones) :D
And since everyone's posting his/her headphones, this are mine:
http://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-880-Premium-250-ohm/dp/B000F2BLTM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1421955033
Nice headphones, i'm currently using some modified Fostex T50RPs with an O2 amp+ODAC, I occasionally use the AKG Q701 or Creative Aurvana Live. The peak at 15.7KHz is most obvious on my speakers (JBL LSR305s), almost unbearable on some tracks.
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-23-2015, 01:49 AM
whoever he got it from gave him an encoded stereo file already instead of the full disc...
Probably botched DVD encode as well.
If he has so many properly IVTC encodes, there shouldn't be any reason that this one didn't get IVTC as well.
The program he uses is so outdated.
It's been updated centuries ago, along with Xvid encoder.
I'm sure they look nice on the Galaxy S3 mini.
"fantastic quality wise" is purely subjective.
But only if the process was done correctly, which in this case, it wasn't.
BBGrunt
01-23-2015, 05:48 PM
I'm with DAK. There needs to be blurays for screeners.
It's 2015. Handing people a DVD "for you consideration" is like handing out toothpaste and floss on halloween to trick'r'treaters. :notgood:
The people judging what is the supposedly the best work of the year can't figure out a BD Player. Seriously. The Academy's membership is ancient, which is why DVD remains the standard to this day. You send out high-def discs and a good portion of voters will never see it.
antovolk
01-23-2015, 05:53 PM
Probably botched DVD encode as well.
If he has so many properly IVTC encodes, there shouldn't be any reason that this one didn't get IVTC as well.
The program he uses is so outdated.
It's been updated centuries ago, along with Xvid encoder.
I'm sure they look nice on the Galaxy S3 mini.
"fantastic quality wise" is purely subjective.
But only if the process was done correctly, which in this case, it wasn't.
Well "fantastic quality wise" out of screeners that are usually available. In many cases the full disc does not reach the pirate groups for whatever reason. This year, those 3 (Birdman, TIG, Theory of Everything) did and those are the best quality ones this year, 5.1 audio, full IVTC and all.
TheSkeletonMan939
01-23-2015, 07:21 PM
The people judging what is the supposedly the best work of the year can't figure out a BD Player. Seriously. The Academy's membership is ancient, which is why DVD remains the standard to this day. You send out high-def discs and a good portion of voters will never see it.
It's not like popping a Blu-ray drive into the player is remarkably different from playing a DVD. It probably just costs more to author Blu-rays, and studios don't want to waste the money.
Studios only want to spend time making a quality product if they think it'll earn them an extra buck.
DAKoftheOTA
01-23-2015, 07:36 PM
If the studio gave even just half a fuck about winning the 5 awards it was nominated for, you'd think they would shell out a few extra bucks for Blu-ray. How can you expect to win the sound mixing/editing and best original score Oscar if all you gave your members (AKA the people who vote for Christ's sake) was a lousy DVD? Just my thoughts.
And I was wrong about predicting the Blu-ray would be in 7.1....it's 5.1. Severely disappointed.
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-23-2015, 07:47 PM
I'm, for one, happy to hear it wasn't 7.1.
7.1 is not all it's hyped up to be today.
There's a 50/50 chance the audio will be 7.1 (strange setup) which is a real pain to transcode properly.
I'm starting to go through my archives and just transcode everything to FLAC that's 7.1 (strange setup), just for legacy support.
Thank christ for MakeMKV.
But, just a much longer process.
Doesn't look it was ever intended to be mixed/filmed for 7.1 surround sound.
Certainly not Atmos.
The Sound of Interstellar by SoundWorks Collection (on Vimeo)
http://soundworkscollection.com/videos/the-sound-of-interstellar
@4:35, you see all tracks are 6 channels (5.1).
TheSkeletonMan939
01-23-2015, 07:57 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if most 7.1 mixes were just the rear channels of a 5.1 setup upmixed.
I thought that Interstellar was mixed in Dolby Atmos, so I was a little surprised to see it was a 5.1 mix too, but I guess I shouldn't be. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (apparently) had an Atmos mix, but the Blu-ray was in similarly in 5.1.
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-23-2015, 08:03 PM
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (apparently) had an Atmos mix, but the Blu-ray was in similarly in 5.1.
Sony might re-release it in Atmos.
If Atmos sales are still strong this year. I'm going to guess that if the sales for a re-release with Atmos is good, then they'll consider re-releasing old movies with Atmos.
Concerning Gravity re-release (
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=15426), that is.
~Diamond Luxe
darkknight1978
01-23-2015, 08:15 PM
All DVDs are standard def, and therefore are
29.97/59.94 NTSC or PAL. No such thing as a 23.98 DVD exists because the format is not hi-def. You can transfer and up-convert a DVD to hd...but it will look like total shit and not be in it's native format.
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In other words, all DVDs are 60i/50i (NTSC/PAL). Only HD formats such as HDC, HDSR, XDC, DVC Pros, hd files, Blu-Rays or actually watching the actual film can you have 24fps (23.976, or 23.98 as we call it in the industry).
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-23-2015, 08:27 PM
All DVDs are standard def, and therefore are
29.97/59.94 NTSC or PAL. No such thing as a 23.98 DVD
IVTC.
You do realize that film-sourced material just gets frames repeated to match the 29.97 fps, right?
Video-sourced material doesn't need to be telecined to 29.97.
You can easily IVTC the film-source to get back 23.976 if you convert to a different format.
Progressive, interlace, doesn't matter.
Every "smart" encoder out there will IVTC to original frame rate, depending on source.
This DVD screener in 29.97 will look like shit with a lot of frames not suppsed to being there.
It will look a lot worse than interpolating frames to higher frame rates. Just watch for any motion and watch how things move.
It won't look anything like the typical motion blur.
antovolk
01-23-2015, 08:32 PM
If the studio gave even just half a fuck about winning the 5 awards it was nominated for, you'd think they would shell out a few extra bucks for Blu-ray. How can you expect to win the sound mixing/editing and best original score Oscar if all you gave your members (AKA the people who vote for Christ's sake) was a lousy DVD? Just my thoughts.
And I was wrong about predicting the Blu-ray would be in 7.1....it's 5.1. Severely disappointed.
Once again....they DID send out BOTH Blu-ray and DVD screeners for Interstellar. The DVD was the one that leaked because the Blu-ray has insane security that the groups couldn't crack.
DAKoftheOTA
01-23-2015, 08:51 PM
I'm sure someone can crack it. However, the commercial release may already be out by that time. Worst case scenario, the early digital release will be up, which is out 2 weeks before the Blu-ray
darkknight1978
01-23-2015, 09:29 PM
IVTC.
You do realize that film-sourced material just gets frames repeated to match the 29.97 fps, right?
Video-sourced material doesn't need to be telecined to 29.97.
Yep. I've worked in that part of the industry for 15+ years now, so I know how all of the telecine and editing conversion processes are handled and done. Whether it was 1999 or 2015.
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
01-23-2015, 09:37 PM
Yep. I've worked in that part of the industry for 15+ years now, so I know how all of the telecine and editing conversion processes are handled and done. Whether it was 1999 or 2015.
So your whole post was really useless, as I already mentioned IVTC previously.
Just another shit thread not going anywhere.
BBGrunt
01-23-2015, 10:18 PM
It's not like popping a Blu-ray drive into the player is remarkably different from playing a DVD. It probably just costs more to author Blu-rays, and studios don't want to waste the money.
Studios only want to spend time making a quality product if they think it'll earn them an extra buck.
And it's not the hardest thing in the world to operate a VCR either, but try telling that to your grandparents. Same principle here. As ridiculous as it seems, Academy members' relationship to technology is one of (though hardly the only) reason for this Luddism. If anybody's really interested, there are a couple of great articles on screeners (
https://medium.com/message/pirating-the-2015-oscars-hd-edition-6c78e0cb471d ) and the cost of Oscar campaigns ( How much does a Hollywood Oscar campaign cost? | Stephen Follows (
http://stephenfollows.com/how-much-does-a-hollywood-oscar-campaign-cost/) ).
Creativeawesome
01-23-2015, 10:57 PM
Thanks :)
DAKoftheOTA
01-24-2015, 02:18 AM
Anyone else call bullshit on this?
'12 Years a Slave' Lawsuit -- Composer Claims Hans Zimmer Ripped Him Off | TMZ.com (
http://www.tmz.com/2015/01/23/12-years-a-slave-soundtrack-lawsuit-stole-music-hans-zimmer/)
darkknight1978
01-24-2015, 02:36 AM
Nope, not useless at all. But some people on here seem to know all about framerates, standards, cross-converting and the like. And sometimes the info on these forums is not always correct. Hence, what I was saying about a DVD never being able to be 23.98. You can rip a DVD and convert it to whatever you like...but it will never be true 23.98 or look as good as something that was in that format natively.
The DVD format is a
59.94/60i format. Standard defition. Sure, you can have a HD source that is 4:4:4 and 23.98 or even true 24PsF. But as soon as you down-convert that down to a DVD, the quality diminishes significantly and the media becomes SD NTSC or PAL (59.94 or 60i).
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Once you downconvert something, whether it is file-based or on a tape, you lose the original quality and framerate regardless. So a cross-conversion or an up-conversion can be 23.98, sure. But it will never look correct or ever as good or as high quality as it once did before it was down-converted.
That was my point. So what you said was correct SparktNk, you can indeed do that. But it isn't true 23.98 anymore and it most definitely is not the same quality in video or framerate. Hope that makes some sort of sense. It works the same as audio. Once you lose that extra video resolution and those frames, even if you do re-convert it back it is not the same.
darkknight1978
01-24-2015, 04:05 AM
I apologize if I came off as sounding like an ass, Sparktank. Didn't mean to in any way, shape or form. I actually like you and think you are a great fellow Shriner who contributes to this forum in a positive way.
We all love this score, that's for damn sure!
James P.Sullivan
01-24-2015, 05:57 PM
Anyone else call bullshit on this?
'12 Years a Slave' Lawsuit -- Composer Claims Hans Zimmer Ripped Him Off | TMZ.com (
http://www.tmz.com/2015/01/23/12-years-a-slave-soundtrack-lawsuit-stole-music-hans-zimmer/)
Not knowing either song, I can't say for sure, but it's probably just a coincidence. Hans has enough creativity without having to copy others' work. I very much doubt it was intentional.
Helix
01-24-2015, 09:01 PM
Anyone else call bullshit on this?
'12 Years a Slave' Lawsuit -- Composer Claims Hans Zimmer Ripped Him Off | TMZ.com (
http://www.tmz.com/2015/01/23/12-years-a-slave-soundtrack-lawsuit-stole-music-hans-zimmer/)
Not knowing either song, I can't say for sure, but it's probably just a coincidence. Hans has enough creativity without having to copy others' work. I very much doubt it was intentional.
The thing with Hans is he doesn't copy/plagiarize, he gets inspired.
Kriegersaurus
01-25-2015, 02:03 AM
Thank you very much! :D
ROKUSHO
01-25-2015, 04:25 AM
The thing with Hans is he doesn't copy/plagiarize, he gets inspired.
by his own previous works.
its like cooking *something* with leftovers of a previous *same something*
en fin, when the flying fuck is the blu ray gonna be released? there are other top notch movies that have their blu rays out in a month.
all this waiting for a mere track is so unnerving
Helix
01-25-2015, 09:57 AM
en fin, when the flying fuck is the blu ray gonna be released? there are other top notch movies that have their blu rays out in a month.
all this waiting for a mere track is so unnerving
March 31st
aussie45
02-01-2015, 01:14 PM
Thank you.
zortech_00
02-09-2015, 02:49 AM
Thank you for sharing this!
toto40
02-11-2015, 05:40 PM
Yes it's different mix.
Thanks for the links btw
Jimster
02-12-2015, 06:49 AM
Thank you Lockdown for this wonderful work, not sure I'll still thanking Lockdown when he start to poke down my place lol
incendia2
02-14-2015, 07:01 AM
thanks, sound great!
Ivanova
02-24-2015, 06:27 PM
Thanks!
Akkubohrer
03-24-2015, 12:34 PM
Thank you, Sir!
ghost_fist
04-04-2015, 05:52 AM
Wonderful. Thank you very much for sharing!!
finkpr
04-07-2015, 05:29 PM
Thank you!
daypass
05-13-2015, 03:48 PM
For those who purchased this deluxe, adding a folded sheet of heavy frosted mylar (found for a few dollars in an art/craft store) definitely takes away the cheap look of the star projection effect. Measurements are 195mm x 120mm, with folds on the side to create a 120mm x 120mm square.

Trian
06-04-2015, 12:58 PM
Thanks!
Reclaimedhalo
05-28-2016, 01:40 AM
Thanks
Patrick1494
08-08-2017, 07:00 AM
link down
Radagast the Brown
03-12-2018, 02:25 PM
Any chance of a re-up?
Thanks in advance!
Bottlewater
02-15-2019, 05:17 PM
I really hope for a reupload!
I've just been getting this album piece by piece over the years, and now I regret it as the links go down.
keneck1980
02-24-2019, 04:45 PM
Would love a re-up. Thank you
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