tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-26-2013, 04:46 AM
The Washington Post:
SOPA died in 2012, but Obama administration wants to revive part of it (http://anonym.to/?http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/05/sopa-died-in-2012-but-obama-administration-wants-to-revive-part-of-it/)
By Andrea Peterson, Published: August 5 at 9:05 am


Last week, the Department of Commerce’s Internet Policy Task Force released a report on digital copyright policy that endorsed one piece of the controversial proposal: making the streaming of copyrighted works a felony.

I will have to agree with this.
For so many reasons.

1) streaming quality is not quality at all.
1a) it's so poor you might as well rent it or go to the library and borrow it

2) there's a lot of fake crap out there: cams, work-prints, early cuts, screeners
2a) all the fake crap really deters people from the actual product. take 11:11 for instance. it's not the greatest work. but the intended final cut may have been better (marginally) than the early cut leaked all over the internet. which, imo, ruined the opinions of any poor sod who watched it rather than waiting for the real product. the director himself publicly stated that everyone watching the online leaked version is watching an early cut and that the final one will be different.
2b) work-prints are only neat after you've seen the movie and get to giggle at the scenes when they were being filmed. true, not all dvd's/bd's have the special features so you get nothing so work-prints were always a fun idea.

3) so many of the streaming sites that are not legal (legal: Netflix, Crackle, etc) often have so many ads that you are greatly exposing yourself to malware and spyware.
3a) so many of the illegal streaming sites also require you to download and install their own "player" or a different build of "divx" just watch the movie. not safe at all.

4) sucks to be you if streaming is your only option.

quite a few social sites designed for webcams (either family friendly or sexual exploiting)f is turning into video streaming.
movies, cartoons, etc.


here's a stupid petition to stop this so you can watch all your favorite bootlegs of crap quality-encoded movies and your anime...

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-sopa-2013/LMzMVrQF



Thoughts? Weigh in?

STREAMING SUCKS! (even Netflix at times, but mostly because it's utilization of the SilverLight technology is based on your maximum potential of bandwidth usage from your ISP)

Leon Scott Kennedy
08-26-2013, 05:47 PM
Though I can't say I care that much for this, I'd rather not deprive someone of one option, nothing nor anybody is forcing... anyone... to use streaming as a "tool" to watch stuff, not to mention that in the case of some country it becomes the only way to see stuff in a timely manner, or at all, since movies or tv series don't always get released everywhere. Malware and spyware, though an issue, can be dealt with... There are software and web browser-extensions which help the user protect him/her~self from that crap.

In the end, live and let live and allow streaming to keep going as it is. If copyright enforcers & co. are so butthurt about it, just get the stuff removed from servers, as usual, and grow a pair... There's no stopping the phenomenon. You stop two individuals, 10 take their place.

ROKUSHO
08-27-2013, 12:46 AM
yo do realize this would affect streams of everything, not just movies in shitty quality, right?
no more people streaming their game runs, etc.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-27-2013, 12:55 AM
There are software and web browser-extensions which help the user protect him/her~self from that crap.

Not easily understood by many, however.
Especially those who are just starting to learn the computer, the internet and the magic that works inside the computer.

I've witnessed a lot of my friends running around the internet unprotected.
Even family needed a good kick in the ass.

Imagine the world out there. So many innocent people walking into traps.

It's easy for us to tell them there's plugins and software to install but they're likely never to figure where to find them, what's good and what's actually malware/spyware themselves.

The only way to stop this threat is to obliterate the source. We need to stop the infection before it infects.

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no more people streaming their game runs, etc.

YO who cares.

r0xm2n
08-27-2013, 01:13 AM
It would be pretty much the death of youtube. Anyone who posts even a single second clip of game footage for any reason is breaking the law.

It's also the proverbial "slippery slope" that gives corporations the green light to pass more of these kinds of bad laws, that only serve to benefit themselves.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-27-2013, 01:25 AM
I think the idea is great but needs heavy reviewing and modifying.

"Fair Usage" will need to be rewritten if this one takes up.
People are still allowed to play clips (to a maximum length; country/state/province dependent).

Although Fair Usage itself is completely shadowed and misty. I don't think most people rightfully understand how it completely works and just copy/paste any generic statement about fairusage.

There's hardly anything worth finding on youtube because I think even YT doesn't understand Fair Usage all that well so people are left to uploading cell phone recordings of 2 second clips we all want to use for everyday posting.

There are still plenty of licensed distributors on youtube and other venues to watch stuff. Not complete things.

I think sports, in general, is going in a complicated direction.
I just read somewhere that cable companies were wanting to charge people extra for watching beyond a "normal" game.
Hockey games overtime? Want to see how many periods in OT it goes? Please insert another $100.

Leon Scott Kennedy
08-27-2013, 01:31 AM
A rather selfish and limited vision of the issue, we could turn it around and say who cares about the likes of Sparktank 2.0, which agrees with this crap. ROKUSHO made a valid point. If this thing passes, Internet will get a lot worse. Who cares... Well, who cares if people get screwed up by crappy quality releases, or viruses, have them "burn themselves with fire", once upon a time it was the only way to truly learn how stuff worked. In regards to the source of evil, it always comes down to perspective.
I have a problem with lossless formats and the fact such encodes are getting more and more popular within file-sharing... Why? Because, and I don't have any problem stating this, such things usually come enclosed with users which turn out to be complete dickheads, the "ungrateful" status effect is sometimes active, too. Those folks are the "death" of file-sharing, in my opinion, greedy assholes which either get what they want how they want it, or the sharer's effort amounts to crap, a useless piece of shit.

C'mon, humour me here, what should we do about that issue, huh?! Kill the users, or completely get rid of the chance to create lossless encodes of any kind? It's about eliminating the source of evil, after all, am I right?

One is completely entitled to have standards in regards to quality, as long as those standards aren't forced on others. Allow folks to have options, otherwise you're opening your "doors" to a horrendous world. Don't limit freedom further. This new attempt at passing a part of SOPA needs a rewrite, badly.

EDIT:
I would still prefer a world where I have the chance to screw up and be a bad guy who gives others crap or the chance to enjoy something, depending on one's point of view. "Good" and "bad" don't have universal... explanations which are always and entirely accepted, they meddle with stuff on a more 'personal' level, especially since morality gets in the way... and morality isn't universal, luckily.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-27-2013, 02:26 AM
The only reason we come off as dickheads is because we're too tired to explain everything lossless.
Most people are happy with an MP3 burned to CD then ripped back to MP3 and then converted to AAC.

DAE requires a very finite degree of competence and understanding of the available technology.

Most people don't have the capacity to learn any more than they already have.

look at the video game section compared to the film section.
there's a great deal of "effort" that can be blatantly measured.

there are astounding members in the film section that do provide audiophile qualities and take care in the process of doing so.
which, actually, once learned doesn't take too much after that for every project thereafter.

the standards are in no way forced on anyone.
they provide on their own will and others will make requests for EAC rips which is not unheard of in this world nor are they expecting the whole forum to take up the request.
Honestly? how many requests are actually fulfilled? Once a lossless goes up, it would literally take zero effort to convert a lossless to MP3 for the others. or even AAC.
and it's not asking a lot either. EAC isn't a science program that requires a bachelor's degree to use.

I can understand if people are on different Operating Systems because EAC is a Windows only solution.

There needs to be a medium ground. with distinct communication.
The idea is there for those who want to use it for good. Naturally, it's going to take time to adjust to new ideas.

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Kill the users, or completely get rid of the chance to create lossless encodes of any kind? It's about eliminating the source of evil, after all, am I right?

So lately, I've been noticing death threats as a common reaction on the internet...

There's been death threats over Ben Affleck being the new Batman...
One of the writers/developers for the Dragon Age video games has quit BioWare and become a freelance worker due to threats against her children...

LSK, are you threatening me with imminent death?
And not just me, but others like Mr_Merrick, Sinus, OscarRomelPR, SonicAdventure, Yannis, FunnyML, and so many others.

Thank you, LSK.
It has become apparent that a witch hunt is to prevail the Shrine and that there are unclean souls that need redeeming.

So I see your gameplan.











































You want to play games, we shall play little games...

http://images.alternet.org/images/managed/storyimages_1307390556_xmenfirstclassmoviephoto04. jpg

That took a lot longer than I intended to GIS Mags.

I'm off to watch X-Men: First Class. Anyone know a good site that's streaming it for free?

DjawadiFan
08-27-2013, 03:23 AM
I'm off to watch X-Men: First Class. Anyone know a good site that's streaming it for free?

Try... tubeplus.me