Hey everyone, stumbled across this great forum at last.

I'll prob post mostly be in the FF7 room as to me this is the best game ever, most emotional and atmospheric, 7 years on and im still playing it and getting sad when things happen.

When people always ask me what the big deal is with Final Fantasy games i can only say its like reading a really good book you get so involved in but you can shape the way things happen, but its much much better than a book.

Anyhow, i've just bought the platinum version to replace my 7 yr old copy and the guide to boot for a good read, and i came up with a little theory...

Dont flame me or blow me out of the water with this, im a noob and its just an idea and rpg's are all about imagination ;)

Could Ifalna (Aeris's real mom which im sure i dont need to point out) or possibly even Aeris been injected with Jenova cells?

Think about it, Gast and Hojo had them as experiments. No doubt they would have figured from blood tests and DNA tests etc that Ifalna and Jenova werent the same species, Jenova originally believed to have been an Ancient and all.

So could part of the experiment have been injecting jenova cells into Ifalna or vice versa? Could this be inherited at birth by Aeris?

This could explain why Gast was taking care of her at the icicle inn area, he could of felt guilt for the experiments conducted on Ifalna at Shinra HQ. Then what started out as guilt could of turned into good old fashioned love.

Anyhow back to my idea. Ifalna no doubt was haunted by these experiments as you would expect. So why after Hojo and his hencemen turned up and killed Gast would she return to Midgar after she escaped?

Now down to why i believe the jenova cell idea...
If what Hojo and Sephiroth call Jenova Reunion (reintegrating eventually of all Jenova parts even if separated) was true, could this explain why Ifalna along with Aeris went straight into the hands of the enemy? (back to midgar)

Ok we could go with the idea that the closer to danger the further from harm and that Shinra wouldnt look right on there doorstep for them first of all could of bought them a somewhat peaceful life, but still, all the way from the North icicle are, so remote, so long for Hojo to find them like he said (2 years?) why not go somewhere else remote like Mideel, or various other places.

Hell why not go all the way to the Ancient City, Ifalna was injured, yet they go all the way back to Midgar. This is where the 2nd part of my idea came in. Ifalna was the only trueblood ancient. Maybe she was able to resist the pull of the Jenova cells. But MAYBE they passed on to her daughter Aeris. Aeris was Gasts and Ifalna's daughter making her half human, half ancient. So just ask Cloud (and argueably Sephiroth) were being influenced by the Jenova cells within to reunite with the rest of Jenova (both of them being human) maybe it was Aeris's human weaker side that led them to Midgar. Ifalna injured, no doubt weak, unconcious maybe half the time, Aeris would have to make her own decisions, so why Midgar? Maybe Midgar being the most technologically advanced city Aeris believed Ifalnas best chance of a recovery was from the medical facilities there, while she was unwittingly being influenced by Jenova?

Im the last person who would like to believe anything but perfect thoughts about Aeris but all of this makes sense.

Then we have her returning north once Sephiroth has broken into Shinra HQ and reclaimed the Jenova specimen. (this ties in with other peoples thoughts of Sepiroth being Jenovas pawn, he already had the head right, and frozen in materia wasnt going anywhere fast, so why not have his clone/avatar bring the body to the head?

So then Aeris does a u-turn and feels the pull in the north....

Then we have her rushing off into the night to the ancient city on her own. Could this of been the pull of Jenova? An unbearable pull calling her there, getting her alone so Sephiroth could do his deed and eliminate the threat of the white materia?

Aeris would of known the party would follow her anyway, she even told Cloud in his dream/vision where she was going so not as if she wouldnt of expected it, so why not wait for everyone? Jenova cells slipping into overdrive to get her alone i think is a valid idea.

Anyhow im sure i've missed a few more thoughts to do with this out but no doubt i've bored you rigid. Just a new thought i've never seen anybody come up with before. And if you re-read it and have a good think not out of the realm of possibilty.



******also i have recorded some vids of "Aeris's 'ghost'" which i'll host this sunday if anybody wants them. You'll be surprised at how this backs up the unfinished game theory and possible the resurrection theory (i dont believe you can do it as it is sadly, but i think that was the intention of the programmers before time ran out)******


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Ryan

Wow... Long post ^_^

Anyway, I don't believe they were injected with Jenova cells, I think that Gast brought Ifalna to Icicle Inn because he didn't want Shinra to have her (as he loved her)... His 'experiments' were just recording the history of the Cetra from his discussions with Ifalna...

And as for the 'pull of the Jenova' and such... Aeris can speak to the planet becuase she is a Cetra, the planet probably told her what she had to do, and sent her off into the night. Not Jenova, as Jenova probably wanted Aeris far, far away... Not to mention that Aeris isn't controlled by Jenova in the game, and she would have been if she had Jenova cells in her (like Cloud did with his little trances)

That's the simplest theory I can come up with... And the simplest is usually the most accurate (though we have no concrete evidence here...)

I agree that the simplest is probably right, but still fun to speculate.

I think Gast left Shinra out of guilt to be honest, a sudden emergence of scientific ethics perhaps. In the videos you watch at icicle inn in there house he acts the scientist at the beginning and she treats him as such but later they are obviously in love so perhaps he fell for her there, who knows ;)

If i was Jenova i would want to eliminate the threat and better chance of doing that if she was on her own that protected by Cloud and crew

Still believe its possible they were injected, probably not, but still possible. Just cant comprehend why they would return to Midgar.

Clouds visions/spasms were caused by sephiroth werent they? :eye:

An Aeris was only HALF Cetra, she would still have that weak side. Not as adept at planet talking as her ancestors perhaps :p

i think your theory is quite valid but injected with jenove cells?...if she or ifalna had been injected there'd be a sure fire way of knowing it, as far as we know, jenova cells cause the "infected" to possess incredible strength and stamina, also more tell-tale by the occasional fit, no i thimnk that it's quite safe to say that Aeris or her mother were not injected with cells, but it probably would have been a brilliant plot twist in the story if they had;)

SOLDIER members etc were injected with Jenova cells AND exposed to Mako energy, maybe one on its own isnt enough to make you superhuman? Maybe to become superhuman the jenova cells themselves has to be exposed to Mako energy/Lifestreem energy whatever you want to call it, like the doctor who said Cloud shouldnt have survived the Mako poisoning but he did because the Jenova cells enabled him to survive, i.e. normal humans instantly dying.

Maybe thats how Sephiroth survived after Cloud through him into what i presume to be mako/lifestream energy at the reactor in Nibelheim?

Now if Aeris and Ifalna did have just the cells without the energy they wouldnt necessarily exhibit the superhuman strength?

Who knows as its all just conjecture :p :D

SOLDIER members etc were injected with Jenova cells AND exposed to Mako energy, maybe one on its own isnt enough to make you superhuman?

*Buzzer*

Wrong-O, my freind. SOLDIER members were showered in Mako, but not injected with Jenova cells. Only Sephiroth clones and their expierements were. There are facts, but I won't waste time putting them up here unless somebody challenges this.

I would like to know why Ifalna came to Midgar though... I havn't had time to think about it just yet. I'll get back to y'all on that one.

Hmmm my mistake if thats the case, sure i read recently while playing the game that SOLDIER members were... hmmm, could be wrong though, however other soldier members luckily dont come into the theory, only cloud :D

"Blink Blink"........

Uhhhh.... Did she escaped? I thought that the both of them were captured and then brought to Midgar where they escaped.

Hey <--rYaN-->, just an opinion from me but I don't think that Iflana could have been injected with Jenova cells. Both the Ancients and Jenova are two Opposing entities amd as such they would probably nullify each other if they were brought together to unite. That's my theory though and it is open to dispute. I never was much of a theory thinker.

It could be that they would be incompatible, open to debate just like the entire of this thread, but thats a big assumption as well.

But she did escape with Gast, hence they were living in the Icicle inn, Gast was kill by hojo and the goon squad giving Ifalna a chance, then ifalna and aeris escaped, thats why Aeris step mom found Ifalna dying at the Midgar train station and took Aeris to look after, after Ifalna died there. :confused: